My Trip To The Library

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Originally Posted by Neezar

Disgusting! What's at the library that is.

The ulcers, well those aren't too bad.

I'm with Bonnie. I'll never enjoy a danish with the same enthusiasm again.

Originally Posted by NateR

There is no such thing as a gay 5-year-old. There is still zero scientific evidence that anyone is born homosexual. It's something that people are corrupted and conditioned into, nothing more.

Trying to assign sexual identities to kids below the age of 18 is a reprehensible form of mental abuse and shows the cruel and destructive motives behind the Gay Rights agenda.

maybe .. don't know . but i would wager to believe there is probably no evidence to prove we are born heterosexual either ... so i guess we are asexual beings until 18 or so ... i don't buy it ..

[Play The Man]

Originally Posted by Primadawn

My 9 year old 3rd grader came home from school a few weeks ago with a book she said the librarian (the SCHOOL librarian) recommended to her. Her friend had tried to check it out, but her reading level restricts her to certain color-coded books. For my Maggie, her reading level is such that NO books in the whole library are restricted to her. This library services K-8!

The book? "Are You There God, It's Me, Margaret." Maggie's name is Margaret so the librarian thought that was "cute". Well, I read that book in 6th or 7th grade, so I knew it was totally inappropriate for a 3rd grader. It has references to girls getting their periods for the first time (which we haven't even discussed yet), references to looking at naked women in Playboy to see what they'll look like someday, and references to looking at diagrams of naked men in the encyclopedia.

I was livid! Sent a nice letter to the teacher and principal, along with the book, but haven't heard anything back yet. They have until the next school board meeting to respond, or we'll discuss it there.

I don't think it is safe any longer to assume that librarians or schools will protect your children. The story below is a case in point:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/porn...ents-outraged/

Sasha Grey, the porn star who outraged Los Angeles-area elementary school parents after she was invited to read to students last week, said Friday she will not stop reading to kids despite having “a past that some people may not agree with.”

Grey was participating in the National Education Association-sponsored “Read Across America” program at Emerson Elementary School in Compton, Calif., reading to first and third grade students. TMZ obtained photos of the actress — now retired from the adult film industry — interacting with children during the Nov. 2 event.

Parents reportedly complained about Grey’s involvement and her proximity to their children, but instead of acknowledging what happened, the school district denied she had been there at all. A representative from the district told TMZ, “We have several celebrities who read to our students each year. The actress you have indicated [Sasha] was not present.”

The district’s response was at odds with the photographs posted online as well as a message Grey posted on Twitter last week: “Spent the am with Read Across America Compton, reading to the sweetest 1st & 3rd grade students @ Emerson Elementary!”

After news of the incident spread Friday, Grey posted a statement online defending her participation in the program. She called promoting education and literacy “an effort that is close to my heart” and said she would continue to do so.

“I committed to this program with the understanding that people would have their own opinions about what I have done, who I am and what I represent,” she said. “I am an actor. I am an artist. I am a daughter. I am a sister. I am a partner. I have a past that some people may not agree with, but it does not define who I am. I will not live in fear of it.”

That is pathetic. Someone at that library is trying to make a point to someone. I believe in talking to my children and explaining that just because some people do things does not make it right. I believe the same as Nate so I have an extra issue with it just because I don't agree with the nature of the books for young children. I think I would make a mention of it to someone at the private school to get their opinion. Would the private school let those books be displayed in their library? I would also not go back to that library.

I know it sounds a little drastic but some of my beliefs I will not bend on. I have different beliefs than others but don't push my beliefs on them. I don't agree with living a gay lifestyle but I'm also not going to want a "Gay is bad" book displayed in the library. There is a time and place for issues that are sensitive to many people.

[Neezar]

I may have changed my mind on this. Kids at that age are very centered on accepting and being accepted. There are all kinds of children's books about accepting others who are different. If I want my kids to accept kids of a different race, fat kids, deformed/disabled kids, why would I not want them to accept a child who by no fault of their own has two mommys or two daddys? They are going to learn about it anyway. Books are a tool for learning and opening doors to discussion with parents, not a replacement.

[NateR]

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

maybe .. don't know . but i would wager to believe there is probably no evidence to prove we are born heterosexual either ... so i guess we are asexual beings until 18 or so ... i don't buy it ..

Probably one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.

There is undeniable biological evidence that people are born heterosexual. Men have been biologically designed to fertilize the eggs in women in order to produce children. There is no other way for humans to procreate. So, there is your proof that heterosexuality is in the biological plan.

But I guess people need to deny the existence of the obvious in order to try to justify something as ridiculous as gay marriage.

[NateR]

Originally Posted by Neezar

I may have changed my mind on this. Kids at that age are very centered on accepting and being accepted. There are all kinds of children's books about accepting others who are different. If I want my kids to accept kids of a different race, fat kids, deformed/disabled kids, why would I not want them to accept a child who by no fault of their own has two mommys or two daddys? They are going to learn about it anyway. Books are a tool for learning and opening doors to discussion with parents, not a replacement.

Why not just talk to your kids about the issue yourself instead of allowing them to read a book that is clearly trying to push an agenda? You can teach them that, while their "parents" are living in sin, it is not the child's fault and it's probably best to not mention the same-sex parents unless directly asked about it. Then they can simply state what the Bible says about homosexuality.

Originally Posted by NateR

Probably one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.

There is undeniable biological evidence that people are born heterosexual. Men have been biologically designed to fertilize the eggs in women in order to produce children. There is no other way for humans to procreate. So, there is your proof that heterosexuality is in the biological plan.

But I guess people need to deny the existence of the obvious in order to try to justify something as ridiculous as gay marriage.

you are the one that said assigning sexual identities to anyone under 18 is reprehensible ..

Originally Posted by NateR

Why not just talk to your kids about the issue yourself instead of allowing them to read a book that is clearly trying to push an agenda? You can teach them that, while their "parents" are living in sin, it is not the child's fault and it's probably best to not mention the same-sex parents unless directly asked about it. Then they can simply state what the Bible says about homosexuality.

I try to explain to my kids that same point about many things. I think it's important to know people are all different and we don't have to agree with their choices because they think we should.

Originally Posted by NateR

Why not just talk to your kids about the issue yourself instead of allowing them to read a book that is clearly trying to push an agenda? You can teach them that, while their "parents" are living in sin, it is not the child's fault and it's probably best to not mention the same-sex parents unless directly asked about it. Then they can simply state what the Bible says about homosexuality.

so anything that does not align with Christian beliefs should not have books about it? what if a non-Christian said they want all Bibles and kids Bibles out of the library because they are pushing the Christian agenda?


or evolution .. they do not align with Christian beliefs .. are they trying to push an agenda?? lets get rid of them too ...