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Old 07-28-2011, 09:24 PM
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how about feuding, or consentual fights to the death


or euthanization? or polygamy? is everything okay as long as people consent? how about cannibalism?
Not sure anyone has ever consented to be eaten....but...well the consentual fights one is interesting
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:35 PM
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Buzzard...The Rabbits that cross the motor way dont believe cars exist either.

That doesnt stop them from being squashed does it

GOD is a fact whether you believe in him or not.
How do you know what a rabbit senses? You don't; you just made up another asinine argument to hear yourself talk.

Look, I don't want to attack your religion and I won't. If you wish me to speak my mind about religion and your personal beliefs in this political thread I will, but be forewarned. Don't go crying and whining when I do what you are requesting me to do, and then come back with the lame "you can always leave if you don't like it" excuse.

I'm trying to be civil in this discussion and attack your arguments. I don't want to have to to attack your beliefs. Unfortunately, others have tried to bully in religion in this debate, you included.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:36 PM
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Usually when someone wears a shirt like that it is to get a reaction. I've done it. (I had FEAR THE * shirts made for my family over Cam Newton.) I wonder if she realize the park's policy and just did this to "gain awareness" or if she just thought it would grab attention of other park goers. I hate that private businesses have their arms twisted to lean towards being PC by people who want to make them seem like their business discriminated.

And i do agree that using the comparison of accepting rapist is wrong but I'll explain that later.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:49 PM
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Not really, immorality is immorality it doesn't matter what form it takes. Plus, human morals degrade in a predictable pattern. It usually starts with the lifting of taboos on fornication (all forms of consenting sex outside of marriage) and voyeurism (lust, pornography), then the stigma of divorce is the next to go, followed by acceptance of homosexuality. Once homosexuality is accepted, the floodgates are opened and society begins to fall apart as all forms of sexual deviance become acceptable.

There are already groups out there using the exact same rhetoric as the Gay Rights movement to argue in favor of things like pedophilia, polygamy and bestiality. So, we might be having this exact same conversation in 20 years in regard to child molesters.
I agree with you, Nate, except I think polygamy-pedophilia has been taking place for years under the guise of certain religions. Warren Jeffs and his sect is a fine example of polygamy, pedophilia and child abuse. But, hey, apparently you can justify anything these days with, "It's just a different lifestyle..."
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:03 PM
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okay, i will bite


how about feuding, or consentual fights to the death


or euthanization? or polygamy? is everything okay as long as people consent? how about cannibalism?
Wait a minute, are you now trying to compare what 2 gay adults do in private to cannibalism? C'mon man, get real.

I'll bite though on some of the other questions, though they have nothing in common with the topic at hand.

Euthanasia - If a person is terminally ill and suffering without relief, in full mental capacity, and wishes to end their life to end their and their family suffering, I don't have a problem with it if certain things are done prior. It's not my life.

Polygamy - No problem if it is consensual between all consenting adults. Certain things would need to be worked out first regarding estates, children etc. in case the marriage didn't work out. Legalities would need to be worked out first. Again, it's not my life. Me personally, I wouldn't want it.

Fighting to the death - We already have it, it's called war.

Feuding - It's not illegal in a sense of a quarrel. If it entails retaliatory violence and destruction of others' property without consent, no. If two people wish to destroy certain types of each others property and are both willing to accept the results without it costing the taxpayer, go for it. You break my I-pad, I break your I-phone, it's a win-win situation for Apple. Certain restrictions apply.

Fighting is already legal, so if members wish to feud and fight in a sanctioned event, go for it. Just be sure to film it so I can watch it on YouTube. Fighting to the death is murder. I don't wish murder to be legal. Ah, but you may say "how can I be against fighting to the death but be okay with euthanasia?" Two totally different concepts.

Everything is not okay as long as people consent. Common sense needs to prevail.

I won't touch cannibalism with a ten foot pole.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:17 PM
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If you can't see the difference between what 2 gay consenting adults do and compare it to bestiality, rape, pedophilia and necrophilia, you have no credibility.
I can live with that. Your personal opinion of my credibility really means nothing to me.

I have no problem with what 2 gay consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home. I just wish they would leave in the privacy of their own home and not rub their sex life in everyone's face. That's the problem that most people have with the Gay Rights movement.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:29 PM
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I agree with you, Nate, except I think polygamy-pedophilia has been taking place for years under the guise of certain religions. Warren Jeffs and his sect is a fine example of polygamy, pedophilia and child abuse. But, hey, apparently you can justify anything these days with, "It's just a different lifestyle..."
Good point, Bonnie.

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I have no problem with what 2 gay consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home. I just wish they would leave in the privacy of their own home and not rub their sex life in everyone's face. That's the problem that most people have with the Gay Rights movement.

EXACTLY! Start with the Folsom Street "fair" and work backwards to these two women advertising their sexual preferences at a private family-oriented theme park. In your face, as usual.
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How do you know what a rabbit senses? You don't; you just made up another asinine argument to hear yourself talk.
If the Rabbits believed in the motor car...they wouldnt cross the road would they

I dont want to hear you speak period Buzzard
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:37 PM
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I can live with that. Your personal opinion of my credibility really means nothing to me.
As does your opinion of mine. Wow, common ground again.

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I have no problem with what 2 gay consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home. I just wish they would leave in the privacy of their own home and not rub their sex life in everyone's face. That's the problem that most people have with the Gay Rights movement.
I agree. I don't like seeing any extreme public displays of affection, heterosexual or homosexual. If you (not you personally) can't wait until you get home, get a room. I think in the years to come, if people come to accept that gay happens, the movement will dwindle and the gay community won't feel that they have to be "in your face." I think some of it is due to the community being vilified and spat upon by society so much that they use it like a big F you to get back at those who wished and wish to harm and vilify them. Just my opinion.

In another forum I visit, someone linked to a gay festival that occurred in San Francisco. What went on on the public streets was disgusting, and even my open mind was closed up. I can never un-see that.

*In this world which is filled with such hate and unrest, if 2 people find that they love each other enough to wish to commit the rest of their lives to that individual, I think it is a great thing.* I read a comment similar to * that and realized that I have felt that way but never put it into the proper wording.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:39 PM
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Good point, Bonnie.




EXACTLY! Start with the Folsom Street "fair"
Flo, I believe that is what I just talked about that made my open mind go .
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