Baltic Terrorist Attacks in Norway begins Afghan retaliation

[NateR]

Originally Posted by Tyburn

Adolf Hitler was a Right Wing Extremist..

You're using that old, outdated "political spectrum" nonsense to come to that conclusion. Hitler was most definitely NOT a right wing extremist.

The old political spectrum puts right wing extremists in one end, with left-wing extremists on the other end with anarchy somewhere in the middle. Well that entire notion was made up as a form of left wing propaganda in order to try to classify men like Adolf Hitler and Ronald Reagan in the same boat.

However, the truth is that anarchy is one extreme and totalitarianism is the other extreme. Anarchy is obviously no government whatsoever (which is impossible to maintain, since people will band together and form local governments for the sake of safety). Totalitarianism is when the government has absolute control over the lives, deaths and even thoughts of it's citizens.

This puts most communists, socialists and fascists in the same boat because they all seek total control of their populations. So, Obama has more in common with Adolf Hitler than Reagan.

Originally Posted by Buzzard

Ah, the "no true Scotsman" defense. I was wondering how long it would take for that.

Odd that you would object, since that is your go-to defense of Islam, ‘how dare you generalize about those wonderful people!’ whenever they blow someone up.

But in this case: One white guy = Christian = All Christians are terrorists, right?

Originally Posted by Dethbob

Odd that you would object, since that is your go-to defense of Islam, ‘how dare you generalize about those wonderful people!’ whenever they blow someone up.

But in this case: One white guy = Christian = All Christians are terrorists, right?

who said all Christians are terrorists??? you are putting words in peoples mouths .. no one said that .. crisco said the media is making him out to be a christian terrorist .. i said the media didn't make him a christian terrorist, he is one, tyburn came back and said no christian would do something like that and buzzard scoffed at the idea .. he didn't say all Christians are terrorists, your deduction is flawed ..

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

who said all Christians are terrorists??? you are putting words in peoples mouths .. no one said that .. crisco said the media is making him out to be a christian terrorist .. i said the media didn't make him a christian terrorist, he is one, tyburn came back and said no christian would do something like that and buzzard scoffed at the idea .. he didn't say all Christians are terrorists, your deduction is flawed ..

Ooohkay... I’ll play along, what do YOU think "no true Scotsman defense” is meant to imply?

Originally Posted by Dethbob

Ooohkay... I’ll play along, what do YOU think "no true Scotsman defense” is meant to imply?

i think it was meant to imply that Christians will distance themselves from this terrorist because if he truly was Christian, he would never had killed innocent people .. but it doesn't change the fact that this guy was part of a group who considered themselves Christians .. i in no way got out of it that buzz was saying all christians are terrorists ..

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

this guy was part of a group who considered themselves Christians

What group was he a part of? Other than ‘friending’ a few people on facebook, of course.

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by NateR

1)You're using that old, outdated "political spectrum" nonsense to come to that conclusion. Hitler was most definitely NOT a right wing extremist.

2) The old political spectrum puts right wing extremists in one end, with left-wing extremists on the other end with anarchy somewhere in the middle. Well that entire notion was made up as a form of left wing propaganda in order to try to classify men like Adolf Hitler and Ronald Reagan in the same boat.

3) However, the truth is that anarchy is one extreme and totalitarianism is the other extreme. Anarchy is obviously no government whatsoever (which is impossible to maintain, since people will band together and form local governments for the sake of safety). Totalitarianism is when the government has absolute control over the lives, deaths and even thoughts of it's citizens.

This puts most communists, socialists and fascists in the same boat because they all seek total control of their populations.

4) So, Obama has more in common with Adolf Hitler than Reagan.

1) Hitler was most definately Far right. He was all about the expansion of German Imperialism in the wake of their World War One Defeat. He was about a prosperous Nation, and New and better Germany. He played the part of devout Roman Catholic during his rise...but was forced into a coilition with the Far Left in terms of Government. He then used them to control the population as he began his asscent to power. Then he turned on them, Opperation Hummingbird, otherwise known as night of the Long Knives.


2) No it doesnt. The classical Taxonomy for Political Philosophy is Facism and Totalitarianism at one end, flowing through Right Wing Republicanism, Flowing through Conservative Whig, Flowing through Centrist Democracy, Flowing through Labour Liberals, flowing through Socialism, flowing though Communism.

Anarchy is complete lack of government and so isnt on any scale for that reason.

3) But in a progressive Taxonomy for political philosophy, you have Anarchy at one end, and Federal Republics at the other end.

What they generally say is that you should take the Classical Taxonomy and make it into a circle, then Far Left and Far Right end up touching each other, as in practise both are about the same thing, just expressed in different ways

4) It puts Obama near nobody because in any political spectrum, he's right in the middle. He's a Centrist. He's neither Left nor Right in terms of Political Philosophy. America is so used to Right Wing that anything approaching Centrism is miss labled as Far Left

I dont really know anything about Ronald Regan...sorry

Originally Posted by Dethbob

What group was he a part of? Other than ‘friending’ a few people on facebook, of course.

well, he considers himself to be part of knights templar, or templar knights, something like that .. until all the information comes out ..

Originally Posted by Dethbob

Odd that you would object, since that is your go-to defense of Islam, ‘how dare you generalize about those wonderful people!’ whenever they blow someone up.

But in this case: One white guy = Christian = All Christians are terrorists, right?

Next time use some salt and pepper before putting words in my mouth as rearnakedchoke pointed out. Complete and utter fail on your part once again. Imagine a super cool fail "meme" image here.

You and other people appear to love using the "no Scotsman" defense whenever a member of a your (generic lumping together of Christian) faith commits a "faux pas", as happened when I made my reply.

To answer your question; not even remotely.

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

i think it was meant to imply that Christians will distance themselves from this terrorist because if he truly was Christian, he would never had killed innocent people .. but it doesn't change the fact that this guy was part of a group who considered themselves Christians .. i in no way got out of it that buzz was saying all christians are terrorists ..

Dind ding ding, we have a winner.