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Old 06-30-2011, 04:31 AM
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I read it all and agree with what he has to say.
Buzzard you are a fool. Do you believe anything in the Bible?
With things like this going on how close are we to the end?
Buzzard what are you going to do when all the christians on earth go to heaven? Whatever you do dont take the mark of the beast!
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Buzzard you are a fool.
Am I allowed to state my honest opinion of you Mark, or will I get banned for it? I surly hope that you can take it if you can dish it.

You ask if I believe anything in the bible. In general, about as much as I believe the story of the 3 little pigs. Some historical aspects yes though. If you give me specific passages, I can address them individually. Do you believe everything that is in the bible happened?

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With things like this going on how close are we to the end?
Please tell me you're not another one of the end of the world folks out there.

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Buzzard what are you going to do when all the christians on earth go to heaven?
Celebrate! Unfortunately it's not going to happen so I'll still be stuck on this rock with you.

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Whatever you do dont take the mark of the beast!
I've already got my 666 tattooed on my skull, had horn implants and split my tongue. I'm fully decked out in Satan art all over my body. To make it clear, I have no tats, horns or tongue split. There is no such thing in reality, so I couldn't take it even if I wanted to.

Have you even read the bible all the way through Mark? How many times? How long have you been a christian? What made you into a believer? Why weren't you before? Did you first read the bible and then convert, or did you do it without researching it.

I believe that the reason most people turn agnostic and atheist is because they have read the bible. Now I admit it's been quite a few years since I have read it completely and I find it interesting, but it is only a book of fiction to me. I was brainwashed and forced/indoctrinated into believing as a child. I had no choice then but I do now, and there is no way I can force myself into believing something as far fetched as the bible.

I'll address other responses if I am allowed to freely express my opinion, and I'll be able to do it without calling anyone a derogatory name.
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Old 06-30-2011, 11:14 AM
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Am I allowed to state my honest opinion of you Mark, or will I get banned for it? I surly hope that you can take it if you can dish it.
If you decide to do that...can you please do it in someone elses section of the Forum I could sooo do without the hassle of being the one who has to respond to whatever results from your Freedom of speech on this issue. Mark dislikes me enough already
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Old 06-30-2011, 01:13 PM
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I was brainwashed and forced/indoctrinated into believing as a child. I had no choice then but I do now, and there is no way I can force myself into believing something as far fetched as the bible.
That is a straight cop-out. No one brainwashed you, you believed what you believed. As a matter of fact I think you still do, why else would you be so defensive about it? I don't believe in UFOs, but I don't log on to every thread on the interweb desperately trying to convince everyone that I don't.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:41 PM
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That is a straight cop-out. No one brainwashed you, you believed what you believed. As a matter of fact I think you still do, why else would you be so defensive about it? I don't believe in UFOs, but I don't log on to every thread on the interweb desperately trying to convince everyone that I don't.
I wish I would've thought of that!
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:58 PM
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That is a straight cop-out. No one brainwashed you, you believed what you believed. As a matter of fact I think you still do, why else would you be so defensive about it? I don't believe in UFOs, but I don't log on to every thread on the interweb desperately trying to convince everyone that I don't.
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That is a straight cop-out. No one brainwashed you, you believed what you believed. As a matter of fact I think you still do, why else would you be so defensive about it? I don't believe in UFOs, but I don't log on to every thread on the interweb desperately trying to convince everyone that I don't.
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Old 07-01-2011, 03:56 AM
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That is a straight cop-out. No one brainwashed you, you believed what you believed. As a matter of fact I think you still do, why else would you be so defensive about it? I don't believe in UFOs, but I don't log on to every thread on the interweb desperately trying to convince everyone that I don't.
No, what is a cop out is clinging to a belief so far fetched and out there with not a shred of proof. If you have proof, lay it out there if you are able. I'm almost willing to bet that anything you would call proof could be easily refuted, if not by me, then through a little bit of research. Burning bushes, please.

I was indoctrinated at a very early age, forced to go to a religious school and had religion hammered into me. If you didn't believe and questioned it, you got rapped in the knuckles among other things. Others may call a spade a spade, I call a cult a cult.

Luckily I got out of it and was able to continue my education through public schools. I will give credit to the school though, it gave me a head start in the education department. It taught me to think for myself which in turn allowed me to objectively look at the subject and decide it was a scam.

You can think what you want, but you have no clue.

Gay marriage brings others up to the level playing field, not bringing them down as you would have it. Separate but equal is nothing of the sort.

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Aw, I have a stalker who can't make an argument on her own. How sweet. If you ever get the guts and brains to actually participate, I might consider allowing you into the conversation. If you are afraid to participate, leave it to the big boys and girls.

I see you like to bring me up in other threads where I haven't even participated too. I'd respond there but I've already wasted enough time on someone who can't think for herself.

If you've got it bring it or go home. I imagine you'll take the easy way out and go home. Have a nice trip and don't let the door hit you on the way out.


EDIT: Said with all the love I could muster.

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Old 07-01-2011, 07:12 AM
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No, what is a cop out is clinging to a belief so far fetched and out there with not a shred of proof. If you have proof, lay it out there if you are able. I'm almost willing to bet that anything you would call proof could be easily refuted, if not by me, then through a little bit of research. Burning bushes, please.

I was indoctrinated at a very early age, forced to go to a religious school and had religion hammered into me. If you didn't believe and questioned it, you got rapped in the knuckles among other things. Others may call a spade a spade, I call a cult a cult.

Luckily I got out of it and was able to continue my education through public schools. I will give credit to the school though, it gave me a head start in the education department. It taught me to think for myself which in turn allowed me to objectively look at the subject and decide it was a scam.

You can think what you want, but you have no clue.

Gay marriage brings others up to the level playing field, not bringing them down as you would have it. Separate but equal is nothing of the sort.



Aw, I have a stalker who can't make an argument on her own. How sweet. If you ever get the guts and brains to actually participate, I might consider allowing you into the conversation. If you are afraid to participate, leave it to the big boys and girls.

I see you like to bring me up in other threads where I haven't even participated too. I'd respond there but I've already wasted enough time on someone who can't think for herself.

If you've got it bring it or go home. I imagine you'll take the easy way out and go home. Have a nice trip and don't let the door hit you on the way out.


EDIT: Said with all the love I could muster.
Buzz if it all could be easily proven and understood than it would not be faith and God would be no different than my finite mind. What is far fetched is evolution which makes claims of truth with no proof and yet still continues to call it science. BTW science records a burning bush that appeared consumed and was not. A little research might do you well also. You are the one with the burden of proof since you made the positive claim that it is not true with certainty. Before something can be claimed false it must be done so with evidence. It is an illogical fallacy to clam falsehood just because something can or cannot be proven true or false. So nice try but if you plan to run your mouth do so with a least a small amount of logic or go troll the other sections.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:40 PM
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I'll address other responses if I am allowed to freely express my opinion, and I'll be able to do it without calling anyone a derogatory name.
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Aw, I have a stalker who can't make an argument on her own. How sweet. If you ever get the guts and brains to actually participate, I might consider allowing you into the conversation. If you are afraid to participate, leave it to the big boys and girls.
Nice. Picking on Flo says a lot more about you than it does about her.

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No, what is a cop out is clinging to a belief so far fetched and out there with not a shred of proof. If you have proof, lay it out there if you are able. I'm almost willing to bet that anything you would call proof could be easily refuted, if not by me, then through a little bit of research. Burning bushes, please.

You can think what you want, but you have no clue.
No clue, no proof, just Faith.

If I'm wrong about you and you actually do want to understand, you might start by exploring the idea of emotional intelligence.

Have a nice weekend.

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Old 07-01-2011, 07:19 PM
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Nice. Picking on Flo says a lot more about you than it does about her.



No clue, no proof, just Faith.

If I'm wrong about you and you actually do want to understand, you might start by exploring the idea of emotional intelligence.

Have a nice weekend.
At least you are honest enough to say that there is no proof. Kudos to you.

As for flo, if she wants to bring me up in other threads in a derogatory way, and add her $.02 cents of nothing in this thread, then I will call her out as others call me out. I'm open for discussion and debate, she isn't capable from what I have seen.

If you wish to insult my intelligence by claiming I believe, then I have no choice to let you know how wrong you are.

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Buzz if it all could be easily proven and understood than it would not be faith and God would be no different than my finite mind. What is far fetched is evolution which makes claims of truth with no proof and yet still continues to call it science. BTW science records a burning bush that appeared consumed and was not. A little research might do you well also. You are the one with the burden of proof since you made the positive claim that it is not true with certainty. Before something can be claimed false it must be done so with evidence. It is an illogical fallacy to clam falsehood just because something can or cannot be proven true or false. So nice try but if you plan to run your mouth do so with a least a small amount of logic or go troll the other sections.
Show me the scientific proof of the burning bush, I challenge you on that. Logic seems to be lost on you, as on most other religious folks when it comes to religion. You believe stuff without proof or evidence, I need more than that and so far there is little to none of it in regard to the outrageous claims made in the bible and quran.

Back on subject. Can you show me how the states that have already approved gay marriage have been destroyed by it?

Marriage is a civil contract which allows many rights to those whom are married. If you aren't allowed to marry the person you love, I believe rights are violated.

Please don't go off and then say that it would open the door up for man to marry animals or children as that is the most asinine argument out there. There are probably other asinine arguments, but these always rise to the top.

Is your marriage so weak that allowing gays to marry will destroy it?

Have a great weekend and a safe 4th Chris and Bob and all others. Don't blow off any fingers, you'll need them to reply.

EDIT: There is a reason it is called the Theory of Evolution, but I believe that you already knew that. When science discovers a mistake, they change and research some more. When fallacies are shown in the good books, you try to change the world to fit your beliefs.

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