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Old 06-14-2011, 11:06 AM
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So would Bingo night at many Southern Baptist Churches be a sin???

Happens alot around here... actually I don't know that for certain anymore.. been awhile since I was in a church.

pay a few dollars.. to get a bingo card...if you win, you get "x" prize... All monies go to the church.

first few games.. you win additional cards.. or a gift card to "Target".. working their way up


I did when I was a kid.. and I remember some people having 4 and 5 cards being played at one time...
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:38 AM
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I'm sure my own belief won't match up with exactly what the bible says, but to me:

If you only risk what you can afford to lose, no big deal.
If you start risking the mortgage payment, the grocery money, etc. THEN you're putting yourself and family in jeapordy and it's a serious problem/sin.

I don't gamble often but I'll wager $20 with a friend here or there on a sporting event. I'll play in the office pool and every once in a great while I'll go to the casino, get $100 worth of chips and play blackjack. If I lose the $100, I'm done.

I think of it as an entertainment expense. Same thing as spending money to see a show or go out to a nice dinner.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:12 PM
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This is one that I've struggled with for a while. I didn't when I was younger, because family poker games were a norm for me from the time I can remember, so I never questioned it, but as I got older and heard OTHER people talking about gambling as a sin, I did.

As for our family games, I guess I still don't think of them as sin, just like any other game we'd play--because even though we play for money, if one person gets low, someone will always throw in for them, and if there's a family member that you saw lost a lot, the "winner" usually gives money back to them--or at least offers it. So it's not really that we're wishing for the other people to lose their money--we often just play with chips..or m and m's or whatever.

Going to the casino, however, I have a harder time with. I enjoy it. I love playing slots and blackjack (21+3 is a favorite!). Like Mike, I only wager what I can afford to, and if I lose, I quit. But I see so many people that DON'T do that, or CAN'T. The very first time I played slots and lost $20 in less than 5 minutes, it was very clear to me how someone could easily develop a gambling problem.

As for stewardship...does the money we spend on gambling glorify God? No. Absolutely not. But neither does the money some people spend on playing golf, or watching movies, or collecting UFC action figures...or watching PPV fights for that matter....I don't know who's in charge of drawing the line...
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:21 PM
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Yes I believe it is. 1 Corinthians 6:12.
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:40 PM
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I'm sure my own belief won't match up with exactly what the bible says, but to me:

If you only risk what you can afford to lose, no big deal.
If you start risking the mortgage payment, the grocery money, etc. THEN you're putting yourself and family in jeapordy and it's a serious problem/sin.

I don't gamble often but I'll wager $20 with a friend here or there on a sporting event. I'll play in the office pool and every once in a great while I'll go to the casino, get $100 worth of chips and play blackjack. If I lose the $100, I'm done.

I think of it as an entertainment expense. Same thing as spending money to see a show or go out to a nice dinner.
Pretty much how I see it as well, also pretty much how I gamble too. I usually do'nt bring a lot or spend a lot either. For horse racing I only allow my self 20$ total to spend, though oddly I seem to always walk away 40$ richer lol.
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:56 PM
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Yes I believe it is. 1 Corinthians 6:12.
This is a little bit out of context but a good example that just because it is ok does not mean we should. This verse is clearly about sexual immorality but Paul's point is valid in this case as well. Gambling like sex has the potential to master someone.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:12 PM
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This is a little bit out of context but a good example that just because it is ok does not mean we should. This verse is clearly about sexual immorality but Paul's point is valid in this case as well. Gambling like sex has the potential to master someone.
Yeah I read the chapter in 3 different translations before posting it to make sure it would apply here and I found that it did because the idea behind it is just because something isn't expressly forbidden doesn't make it ok. The bible doesn't speak of TV directly, but I find that to be covered under this same it. Gambling is a game of chance and I just don't think that such a risk to our money is acceptable. God calls us to be wise with our money and gambling is not. This is exactly why I took issue with the topic a few weeks ago that God let some woman win the lotto so her son would believe in Him.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:11 PM
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Anything that pushes you out of alignment in accordance with a righteous standing before GOD constitutes sin

Almost anything can do that, depending on motivation, and circumstances.

I think the better question is "when is Gambling a sin?"

and just because it has the potential to be sinful...should we abstain...I mean..this forum has the potential to produce sin...does that mean as Christians we should all switch our computers off?



Sometimes specific sins are recorded in Scripture, sometimes certain things with addictive or repeatative properties are an easy way to get caught up in sin (like a bad habit...or a dependancy)

But Its really the person that makes a thing, or circumstance, sinful. After all...the Hardened Christians would eat sacrifices to pagen gods...and why not? those pagen gods dont hold a candle and their sacrifices are worthless...BUT Paul asks them not to do it infront of new Christians...and he says that a weak of faith person should not do it

The food is not sinful. But what someone does with the food can be. There is nothing wrong with alcohol. Its simply a chemical poisen...but to sell it to under aged people...or to drink so much you degrade your body...well thats a sin

Do you understand what im trying to say

The act of guessing an outcome is not sinful. Laying other peoples wealth and livelyhoods on the outcome of a guess...probably is as its an unjustified risk
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:30 PM
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Anything that pushes you out of alignment in accordance with a righteous standing before GOD constitutes sin

Almost anything can do that, depending on motivation, and circumstances.

I think the better question is "when is Gambling a sin?"

and just because it has the potential to be sinful...should we abstain...I mean..this forum has the potential to produce sin...does that mean as Christians we should all switch our computers off?



Sometimes specific sins are recorded in Scripture, sometimes certain things with addictive or repeatative properties are an easy way to get caught up in sin (like a bad habit...or a dependancy)

But Its really the person that makes a thing, or circumstance, sinful. After all...the Hardened Christians would eat sacrifices to pagen gods...and why not? those pagen gods dont hold a candle and their sacrifices are worthless...BUT Paul asks them not to do it infront of new Christians...and he says that a weak of faith person should not do it

The food is not sinful. But what someone does with the food can be. There is nothing wrong with alcohol. Its simply a chemical poisen...but to sell it to under aged people...or to drink so much you degrade your body...well thats a sin

Do you understand what im trying to say

The act of guessing an outcome is not sinful. Laying other peoples wealth and livelyhoods on the outcome of a guess...probably is as its an unjustified risk

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Old 06-15-2011, 02:58 AM
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I gamble every time I fly coach.
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