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Old 05-22-2011, 11:03 PM
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Default Would a Nick Diaz vs Georges St. Pierre superfight in UFC even be competitive?

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For everyone that is ready to rip this article up just after seeing that title, I ask you to please proceed in reading and allow me to explain.

I believe just as much as anyone that Nick Diaz is worthy of a Georges St. Pierre caliber opponent. After he walked through Paul Daley with an impressive technical knockout win in an explosive and exciting first round, it became impossible to doubt just how proficient the Stockton, Calif. native is on his feet.

My only question is this: With talks of a St. Pierre vs. Diaz title fight in the works for UFC 140 this December, and even rumors that they're under consideration for the vacant Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 14 coaching slots, would it even be worth the time? Honestly, would it even be competitive?

Diaz, who was previously employed by UFC, has since fought in Elite XC, Dream, and most recently Strikeforce, amassing an impressive 11-1-1 record since his departure. That includes a 10-fight win streak with his only loss coming from a doctor stoppage against KJ Noons.

Everything that Diaz has needed to accomplish to prove he deserves bigger and better opponents, he's done -- and convincingly.

So what's the problem?

Although Diaz is dominating the Strikeforce welterweight division in the same manner St. Pierre is dominating the UFC's, there are a number of variables that may very well lead to a lopsided fight.


In the entire sports world, St. Pierre's athleticism is close to unmatched but when you're talking MMA, there's no question that it is. His well-rounded skill-set and strong wrestling game has the ability to completely control fights, exactly the way he has shown us so many times throughout his career.

In addition, "Rush" has some of, if not the, best takedowns in the sport with a will that is nearly unbreakable. Putting aside the criticism of his lack of finishing recent fights, GSP has found a way to win for a very, very long time.

An attitude that sometimes carries serious repercussions, and the confidence that comes with such an "F the world" mentality, has brought Nick Diaz all kinds of attention, both good and bad. His subsequent success in the cage has made him a superstar.

As far as his skills, he has an exceptional ground game with his well known jiu-jitsu pedigree to go along with a scrappy striking style. Put it all together and he's an incredibly difficult match-up for anyone.

The problem with a fight with St. Pierre is that his overall skills more or less cancel out everything Diaz brings to the table. His ability to dominate in wrestling and survive dangerous jiu-jitsu practitioners (see Shields, Jake), as well as win fights with his boxing via a simple jab (see Koscheck, Josh), is a testament to that fact.

The French-Canadian has handled Shields, Koscheck, Dan Hardy, and Thiago Alves in his last four fights, all of which he has, despite all the criticism, won decisively. That's just the tip of the iceberg as far as St. Pierre's overall accomplishments go. We haven't even mentioned his drubbing of such elite fighters like Matt Hughes and Jon Fitch.

And with all due respect to Nick Diaz's previous opponents, they simply do not match up to the caliber of fighter "Rush" has been dealing with for the past few years.

Not only are these two 170-pound champions in different leagues, both literally and figuratively, so, too, have been all their opponents.

Nick Diaz vs. Georges St. Pierre, in due time, could make for an epic title fight. But for now, I believe this fight has too much of a chance to be a massive disappointment. It could very well end up just being a repeat of Rory MacDonald's domination of Nick's brother, Nate Diaz, back at UFC 129 on April 30.

Diaz's win streak and record over the past few years has been impressive and is definitely nothing to scoff at. Is it enough to earn him a shot at Georges St. Pierre's coveted UFC welterweight championship? Yes, it probably is.

Just don't expect the fight to be all that competitive.



After he walked through Paul Daley with an impressive technical knockout win in an explosive and exciting first round,


Wow.. I don't remember that being a "walk through".. I remember Diaz actually being rocked once or twice...
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Old 05-22-2011, 11:55 PM
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I king of laughed at this

"And with all due respect to Nick Diaz's previous opponents, they simply do not match up to the caliber of fighter "Rush" has been dealing with for the past few years."

I do think GSP might be on another level, but you're going to tell me that Diaz couldn't have finished Dan Hardy? Look at KOS / Daley, and Diaz Daley. I think Diaz has done more than enough to prove he can make it competitive. GSP couldn't handle Shields on the feet, my god could you imagine if he doesn't get Diaz down???
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:05 AM
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I like Diaz, but no it would not be competitive.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:22 AM
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Nick has had worse opponents I mean that should be obvious. The only guy who shouldn't have fought GSP in the first place is Hardy. Ever since the Alves fight the standards for getting a welterweight title shot have become much much lower but thats because GSP is doing so well. People don't give Nick nearly as much credit as he deserves but I still think he will have trouble against a dominant wrestler type. I think Fitch would give him trouble let alone GSP (although I would NEVER actually root for fitch in that fight). Either way I want him to get a title shot. I'd like to see some legitimate stand up exchanges not someone trying to poke the other guy's eyes out.
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Kinda had to LOL really hard at :
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Although Diaz is dominating the Strikeforce welterweight division in the same manner St. Pierre is dominating the UFC's,
I guess "in the same manner" is loosely defined as "winning"....

Diaz has finished 9 of his last 10 opponents over the past three years...
GSP has only had 7 fights in roughly the same time period and could only manage to finish off Matt Sera, and arguably BJ Penn.

I think the question is, could GSP handle Nick Diaz... and I'd wager a resounding "NO".
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I think the question is, could GSP handle Nick Diaz... and I'd wager a resounding "NO".

If the fight is kept on the feet.. Nope.. Diaz would SMOKE GSP.. and I am a GSP fan.

On the ground.. I would have to make it slightly in GSPs favor.. depending on who is on top.. GSP doesn't seem to do to well off his back..
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So you say.. it wouldn't be a competitive fight? GSP would run over Nick?
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So you say.. it wouldn't be a competitive fight? GSP would run over Nick?
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After he walked through Paul Daley with an impressive technical knockout win in an explosive and exciting first round,


Wow.. I don't remember that being a "walk through".. I remember Diaz actually being rocked once or twice...
Right! I think It's stupid that people say he walked through Daley!
Daley got caught and lost fair and square but Daley had the Pot smoker in trouble and almost finished him.

I can't believe people are still comparing GSP's opponents to Diaz
Georges has clearly fought the better guys. Now is Diaz deserving of a fight with GSP yes.

Will the fight be good I think so I see Georges winning every single round.
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