De La Hoya checks into rehab

Originally Posted by J.B.

Does that mean I am just being mean?

Nah, just strong willed and opinionated if it makes you mean so be it

Originally Posted by J.B.

Does that mean I am just being mean?

yeah ... and what do you mean losing all of his biggest fights?

[rockdawg21]

Originally Posted by J.B.

or better yet...do they have a rehab for fighters who are best known for losing all of their biggest fights?

LOL, ouch!

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

yeah ... and what do you mean losing all of his biggest fights?

I can answer this...

HOF/future HOF boxers who beat DLH: Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley - twice, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather Jr., and Manny Pacquiao.

DLH's only wins against HOF/future HOF boxers were an injured Julio Cesar Chavez (who suffered a cut during training and DLH reopened it during the fight causing a stoppage) and Arturo Gatti (whom DLH defeated very decisively with a 5th round TKO).

Originally Posted by rockdawg21

LOL, ouch!


I can answer this...

HOF/future HOF boxers who beat DLH: Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley - twice, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather Jr., and Manny Pacquiao.

DLH's only wins against HOF/future HOF boxers were an injured Julio Cesar Chavez (who suffered a cut during training and DLH reopened it during the fight causing a stoppage) and Arturo Gatti (whom DLH defeated very decisively with a 5th round TKO).

well pernell whitaker should be in the HoF, even before gatti ... i think he won the trinidad fight (not that my opinion counts), many thought he beat floyd and mosley was juiced both times they fought ... manny destroyed him, yes and so did bhop ... but both of them were favourites ...

[rockdawg21]

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

well pernell whitaker should be in the HoF, even before gatti ... i think he won the trinidad fight (not that my opinion counts), many thought he beat floyd and mosley was juiced both times they fought ... manny destroyed him, yes and so did bhop ... but both of them were favourites ...

Well, regardless of how you want to interpret or bend it, the record books shows he lost virtually all of his big fights.

And I agree with you on Whitaker, my bad for overlooking that. His record was amazing up to the point he faced DLH - 40-1-1. After he faced DLH, he went 0-3 (he also had 1 NC). 40-4-1, 1 NC all-time.

Originally Posted by rockdawg21

Well, regardless of how you want to interpret or bend it, the record books shows he lost virtually all of his big fights.

And I agree with you on Whitaker, my bad for overlooking that. His record was amazing up to the point he faced DLH - 40-1-1. After he faced DLH, he went 0-3 (he also had 1 NC). 40-4-1, 1 NC all-time.

he also won titles in 6 different categories .... and beat a lot of champs .. i don't hink you are saying he is garbage, but i am saying, is went out and fought anyone and everyone ....

[rockdawg21]

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

he also won titles in 6 different categories .... and beat a lot of champs .. i don't hink you are saying he is garbage, but i am saying, is went out and fought anyone and everyone ....

No, I always enjoyed watching DLH's fights, I'm just in agreement with JB that DLH's record is pretty soft and he struggled to pull the trigger against elite opponents.

[J.B.]

Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

yeah ... and what do you mean losing all of his biggest fights?

Rockdawg hit the nail on the head....

Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins, Trinidad, and Mosley twice.

Sure, he beat Whitaker, Chavez, Camacho, and accomplished enough in the sport to surely be in the hall of fame, but the fights he lost are still more memorable to fans than the fights he won.