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Old 03-10-2009, 08:35 PM
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Do you agree it should have been sub of the night based on the fact that Madigan tapped?

What did they rule Serra GSP 1? he tapped to strikes, right?
It depends how the ref scores it, in this case, the ref stopped it as Madigan was tapping, so it in theory should be a submission due to strikes and IMO be eligible for SOTN .. as for the GSP thing, yes he tapped, but BJM had stepped in to stop the fight, GSP turned to turtle and tapped, so in theory it was stopped by the ref due to strikes just before the tap ... so when BJM went to score it, he called it a TKO ..

Look at the Jeremy Stephens/Din Thomas fight, that is scored a Submission Armbar (i think), but Stephens didn't tap, it was stopped whent he armbar was sunk in ..
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:26 PM
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It depends how the ref scores it, in this case, the ref stopped it as Madigan was tapping, so it in theory should be a submission due to strikes and IMO be eligible for SOTN .. as for the GSP thing, yes he tapped, but BJM had stepped in to stop the fight, GSP turned to turtle and tapped, so in theory it was stopped by the ref due to strikes just before the tap ... so when BJM went to score it, he called it a TKO ..

Look at the Jeremy Stephens/Din Thomas fight, that is scored a Submission Armbar (i think), but Stephens didn't tap, it was stopped whent he armbar was sunk in ..
Good example of maybe there should be a TTO Technical Tap Out, for when guys don't tap...
I just think this is an interesting topic.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:44 PM
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Good example of maybe there should be a TTO Technical Tap Out, for when guys don't tap...
I just think this is an interesting topic.
Well, I think there is a technical submission category .... i think when the gracies got kimura'd by saku and didn't tap, or when big tim got his arm broke by mur, they didn't tap, but the fight was stopped .... so i guess it is how the ref scores it at the time
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:34 PM
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Hmmm
I know I've seen the term "submitted (strikes)"
I'll have to look at how Pride used to rule things.

Sherdog shows
Fedor defeating Zulu via submission (strikes)
Mirko defeating Barnett subission (strikes)
I knew I'd seen it somewhere
We don't count Sherdog as an authority on this message board.
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