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Old 03-10-2009, 03:31 PM
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Default Why no Sub of the Night at 96???

Based on the telecast it appeared that Madigan tapped out due to strikes. I believe that Rogan even pointed it out in the replay. This is technically a submission, right? So why wasn't Tamden awarded Sub of the night?
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:50 PM
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When they mean submission they are referring to BJJ. What you are refering to is more of a TKO
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Tapping to strikes isn't a submission. Tapping due to chocke, arm locks, leg locks, etc. are submissions.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:16 PM
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I thought I remembered seeing cases where someone tapped (or verbally submitted) to strikes and it was ruled a submission. And if the ref steps in, then its ruled a TKO.

IMO, if you give up (be it verbally or by taps) it should be ruled a submission. The ref is declaring that you are OK to continue fighting (he hasn't stepped in) and you are giving up, you are submitting to your opponent.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:28 PM
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because Maia wasn't fighting
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rockdawg21 Tapping to strikes isn't a submission. Tapping due to chocke, arm locks, leg locks, etc. are submissions.
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Champ2be When they mean submission they are referring to BJJ. What you are refering to is more of a TKO
I think if someone "Submits" by tapping it should be ruled a submission and therefore eligible for submission of the night.

It's still submitting because you're in a situation you cannot get out of.
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No love for the barncat. I hope McRory does really well in the UFC. He's another East Coaster that used to fight in the CFFC here in Atlantic City.
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No love for the barncat. I hope McRory does really well in the UFC. He's another East Coaster that used to fight in the CFFC here in Atlantic City.
Do you agree it should have been sub of the night based on the fact that Madigan tapped?

What did they rule Serra GSP 1? he tapped to strikes, right?
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What did they rule Serra GSP 1? he tapped to strikes, right?
That was ruled a TKO, erroneously in my opinion
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That was ruled a TKO, erroneously in my opinion
Hmmm
I know I've seen the term "submitted (strikes)"
I'll have to look at how Pride used to rule things.

Sherdog shows
Fedor defeating Zulu via submission (strikes)
Mirko defeating Barnett subission (strikes)
I knew I'd seen it somewhere
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