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Old 04-21-2011, 06:51 PM
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Default I know who I want Matt Hughes to fight....

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/4/21/21...rock#storyjump

I know he is just dropping the name to make himself "revelant".. but stilll

I get the impression that Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 13 contestant Len Bentley doesn't like his coach, former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar.

Or maybe he just doesn't like chicken salad.

Either way, episode four of TUF 13 must have been a tough one for Bentley to endure. Not only does he have to atone for losing control of the fight picks following his loss to Ryan McGillivray, he's forced to sit idly by while former UFC welterweight champion Matt Hughes is brought in as a special guest trainer.

The same Matt Hughes that went to war with Bentley's training partner, Dennis Hallman, and lost.

To top it all off, Lesnar went on a post-fight tirade after Charlie Rader choked (literally) in his elimination fight against Ramsey Nijem and Bentley tells MMA Die Hards he eventually stormed out in disgust:



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"While the other guys might have been excited about the special guest Brock brought in ó none other than Matt Hughes ó all I could do was shake my head and laugh. Hughes is probably the one cause guy i really didnít want to see. My training partner, Dennis Hallman, is the only man to beat Hughes twice and never suffered a loss to him. Because Hughes talked some trash about Dennis in his book, Iím really not a fan. You did not see much of me during that segment. Brock was so pissed [after the Rader fight] he threw the stool into the cage. Dana White backed up Brock up by saying Brock cares and hates seeing guys quit. Then they cut to the dressing room, and only showed a piece of what happened. It was extremely quiet while Brock was lecturing us. Brock went off on Clay because he thought Clay wasnít listening to him while he was asking the other coach a question about the fight. Then Brock started ranting that we are all walking around here all high and mighty or something to that effect. Thatís when he rattled off the cities we are from. When he got to Seattle, I was pissed. This a-hole is saying Iím chicken sh*t and I am walking around all high and mighty when this turd didnít even show up for my fight and hadnít even taken the time to watch it when he got back. So I told him that I fought my heart out and wasnít gonna stay around for his ass chewing!"
Bentley was forced to walk out during Brock's "ass-chewing" because despite losing to the opposing team's last pick, he informs the TUF audience he "fought his heart out" and "left it all in the cage."

But is that enough in the ultra-competitive landscape of mixed martial arts? Will Bentley get another crack at UFC stardom when the wildcard rolls around?

Stay tuned.

In the meantime, what's your take on Bentley's comments? Is he out of line? Or standing up for himself? Is this experience indicative of what type of coach Lesnar is?

Opinions, please.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:04 PM
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I don't have any problems with Bentley walking out. Even Dana White came in personally after the fight and shook his hand. Bentley definitely didn't quit, nor is he on a high horse!
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:13 PM
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I had no problems with that at all..

But to be in the same weight class.. and have Matt Hughes... come in and offer to "tweak" you up in your techniques.. or even just roll... and you can't say anything nice about the guy..

They even showed Matt saying.."Sure go for the sub if you get it.. just don't rip my arm or leg off.." When in reality.. he could prolly school any of them...

"If you can't say anything nice.. keep your mouth shut"
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:24 PM
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he doesn't deserve to hold matt's spit bucket in between rounds let alone fight matt ...
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:45 PM
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HE was showing loyalty to his training partner and I doubt he read Matt's book. Sometime along the way someone said that Matt bashed Dennis Hallman. was it the thing about "The only guy that Dennis Hallman could beat was me", thing?

The only reason Hallman beat Karo was because I got in Karo's mind the night before and shook him up.
that and Karo was severly out of shape.
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:36 AM
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Just making sure I understand what your saying here. You want to see the most dominant ww of all time and ufc hof'er fight a tuf house loser?
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:53 AM
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Just making sure I understand what your saying here. You want to see the most dominant ww of all time and ufc hof'er fight a tuf house loser?
Not me! From what I've seen none of the Tuffers from this batch deserve to be in the cage let alone fight Hughes!
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:24 AM
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HE was showing loyalty to his training partner and I doubt he read Matt's book. Sometime along the way someone said that Matt bashed Dennis Hallman. was it the thing about "The only guy that Dennis Hallman could beat was me", thing?

The only reason Hallman beat Karo was because I got in Karo's mind the night before and shook him up.
that and Karo was severly out of shape.
I don't remember Matt bashing Hallman in his book. Is my memory faulty, or, maybe someone innocently (or deliberately ) misinterpreted something Matt said as bashing?

Len could have expressed himself in a more mature way other than walking out. He could have asked Brock if he had had a chance to watch his fight, and if Brock said, no, he could have said, well, when you do, let me know what you think. Charlie, quit, plain and simple, so I can understand why Brock was really upset. Even if Len fought his heart out, he still lost which meant Brock didn't get to choose the next match-up so he was probably already somewhat frustrated by that before Charlie just gives it away.

I don't think it's disloyal to take advantage of an opportunity to learn from someone (h-e-l-l-o! Matt Hughes 9x WW Champion) who could teach you something that might help you. I think Len was being short-sighted.
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:05 PM
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If I was in a training session and someone decided to bring in Matt Serra or Frank Trigg, I might feel a little put off. Probably not to the same level that Len was but I can understand it a bit. I realize that Matt's on a much higher level than Serra or Trigg but if you train in an "enemy" camp, you might not want to deal with him.

I also don't blame him for getting mad at Lesnar. Brock's heart might be in the right place but the words he chooses are terrible. Calling them all "chicken s__t" from day one was about the dumbest thing I've ever heard a coach say. Dude did quit in that last fight though. No question. He tapped as fast as possible when the choke wasn't even completely in yet.
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Lesnar is "negative - positive" coach..

Example... "not bad..".. getting better"..

for some people that works real well.. but most.. not so much... For these guys.. I would think that hearing negative complements from a person as famous as Brock.. just would be as conductive as more motivational commnets..

At my dojo we use what's called a PCP method..(Praise, Critique, Praise) with both adults and the kids..

Example...

"Great (good, NICE, looks sharp) leg kick, let's work on snapping your knee out a little sooner... (student repeats with a effort to work on the critiqued area).. Yes! That's it.. keep going like that!..

Students, people.. coworkers.. humans in general.. will always prefer to hear good things... and will respond better.. than just criticism.. If you sandwich the criticism between two positive comments.. you will see much better results..

I seem to remember Matt's time on TUF being very similiar..


Sorry.. just realized I went off on a tangent....
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