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Default Wisconsin Senate GOP Votes to Strip State Workers of Collective Bargaining Rights

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...s-sources-say/
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Bypassing Democrats hiding out in Illinois, Wisconsin Senate Republicans voted Wednesday night to strip state workers of their collective bargaining rights.

Republicans voted 18-1 to pass the stripped-down budget bill in a hastily arranged meeting. None of the Senate Democrats were present.
The state Assembly is expected to vote on the bill Thursday.

All 14 Senate Democrats fled to Illinois nearly three weeks ago, preventing the chamber from having enough members present to consider Gov. Scott Walker's so-called "budget repair bill" -- a proposal introduced to plug a $137 million budget shortfall..

The Senate requires a quorum to take up any measures that spend money. But Republicans on Wednesday split from the legislation the proposal to curtail union rights, and a special conference committee of state lawmakers approved that bill a short time later.
Wisconsin Senate Democratic leader Mark Miller said Wednesday Democrats will "join the people of Wisconsin in taking back their government," but he refused to say when.

The lone Democrat present on the conference committee, Rep. Tony Barca, shouted that the surprise meeting was a violation of the state's open meetings law but Republicans voted over his objections. The Senate then convened within minutes and passed it without discussion or debate.
Spectators in the gallery screamed "You are cowards."

Before the sudden votes, Democratic Sens. Bob Jauch said if Republicans "chose to ram this bill through in this fashion, it will be to their political peril. They're changing the rules. They will inflame a very frustrated public."
Walker praised the legislative action.

"The Senate Democrats have had three weeks to debate this bill and were offered repeated opportunities to come home, which they refused," he said in a statement.

"In order to move the state forward, I applaud the Legislature's action today to stand up to the status quo and take a step in the right direction to balance the budget and reform the government," he said. "The action today will help ensure Wisconsin has a business climate that allows the private sector to create 250,000 new jobs."

State Senate Democratic Minority Leader Mark Miller issued a statement saying, "Tomorrow we will join the people of Wisconsin in taking back their government."
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Old 03-10-2011, 01:51 AM
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My favorite part is how the protesters called them "cowards" while supporting the people who ran away to another state in order to avoid conflict.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:27 PM
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My favorite part is how the protesters called them "cowards" while supporting the people who ran away to another state in order to avoid conflict.
I am glad it passed, maybe now more people like you will be left behind....
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I'm still not sure about this one. I don't really know all the facts yet but I'm not sure if taking away the unions (or the unions rights) is good or bad for the people.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:59 PM
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I'm still not sure about this one. I don't really know all the facts yet but I'm not sure if taking away the unions (or the unions rights) is good or bad for the people.
i guess the only way to tell is the next elections ... if the people like it, they'll keep the current group around, if not .. well, we'll see .. i am curious to see how other states will react .. will they follow suit or keep status quo and watch what happens in wisconsin ...
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I am glad it passed, maybe now more people like you will be left behind....
O, that's really clever what you did there: since I'm from America & I disagree with you, I'm clearly a dumbass. Man, so I'm glad you came trolling into this thread with no other intent than to insult & stir up ••••. How could us poor ignorant fools in the world's greatest nation ever manage to get anything done without your bull••••, passive-aggressive, "I can't logically support my opinions so instead I'll just commit juvenile ad hominem attacks on my opponent's intelligence & character in the vague hope that I can distract people from the topic at hand & feel worthwhile because I made fun of someone on the internet" one liners?

For crying out loud, man, even COUNTYMIKE managed to contribute something worthwhile in this thread!

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Personally it makes me upset that this has happened. Waiting for it to happen here in NJ now.

I guess I'm biased because I am part of a union. I don't think that my union is blameless and that unions, in general, shouldn't be looked at and tweaked. I know there is a lot of funny business and waste going on ..........on BOTH sides........

but I know that without my union........there would be a lot of crazy stuff going on in my district. Contracts being broken, work hours increased without compensation..........those are just two items on the endless list.

Unions were put in place and continue to be needed because some employers can't be trusted to do the right thing by their employees.

That is just my opinion though. As a union member.............
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I am not happy about this at all. I have always been union until this job and I was always taken well care of.. I think being in a non-union workforce is awful..No sense of security, growth, or fairness at all.. Just my thoughts though..
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:42 PM
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Personally it makes me upset that this has happened. Waiting for it to happen here in NJ now.

I guess I'm biased because I am part of a union. I don't think that my union is blameless and that unions, in general, shouldn't be looked at and tweaked. I know there is a lot of funny business and waste going on ..........on BOTH sides........

but I know that without my union........there would be a lot of crazy stuff going on in my district. Contracts being broken, work hours increased without compensation..........those are just two items on the endless list.

Unions were put in place and continue to be needed because some employers can't be trusted to do the right thing by their employees.

That is just my opinion though. As a union member.............
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I am not happy about this at all. I have always been union until this job and I was always taken well care of.. I think being in a non-union workforce is awful..No sense of security, growth, or fairness at all.. Just my thoughts though..
Thank you for sharing your opinions. I'm really glad that we can have an intelligent exchange of thoughts & ideas with one another.

As an outsider looking in, I've felt that while unions were, at one point, a huge necessity & ar estill important to protect workers, the current unions (much like our government) have grown & morphed into mutations of their original purposes.

(btw, is anyone here shocked that the Sicilian on here is a member of the Jersey Union? )
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