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Old 02-01-2011, 07:57 PM
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Yoohoo! Amyyyyy!

This is why I love the MHF.



I see that my avatar is needed.....LOL! However, I am going to abstain from this topic. I've got about a million things going on right now so I am too distracted to properly debate or discuss with any sort of intelligence at the moment.

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I see that my avatar is needed.....LOL! However, I am going to abstain from this topic. I've got about a million things going on right now so I am too distracted to properly debate or discuss with any sort of intelligence at the moment.

Cheers to all!


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Old 02-01-2011, 08:04 PM
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I respectfully disagree, Nate. And I'm going out on a limb here because I don't have a scintilla of the bible knowledge you have.

I don't believe the world is evil, Man can be evil, Satan is evil. The world is a paradise given to us and we have the free will to make our life decisions.
1 John 2:15 (emphasis added):
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Satan is the current ruler of this world according to Jesus Christ:

John 12:31 - "Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out."

John 14:30 - "I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me."

John 16:8-11 (emphasis added) - "And when He [the Holy Spirit] has come, He will convict this world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgement, because the ruler of this world is judged."

Luke 4:5-6 confirms Satan as the ruler of this world (emphasis added):
Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."
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But your truth.. is just as valid as mine.
For it to be TRUTH, that's not possible.

An example: Modern science states that water is composed of 2 molecules of hydrogen and one molecule of oxygen. What if another group of scientists state that water is actually composed of 2 oxygen molecules and one hydrogen molecule? Then another group of people claims that the primary ingredient in water is actually nitrogen, not hydrogen. Still another group claims that water is really made of unicorn tears. So, can they all be right? No, only one of them can be right or they are all wrong.

It's the same with GOD. Some people believe in the personal GOD of the Bible. Some believe in an impersonal "god-force" type of energy that has no direct dealings with people at all. Some believe that GOD resides inside of us and we are all divine. Others believe in no god at all. They can't all be right. If only one of these is right, then it cancels out all the others. It's simple logic.

It's like the statement: "There are no absolutes." That sentence is logically impossible. Either it's false or it's true and it makes itself false by its very existence. In other words, the statement "There are no absolutes" is an absolute, thus it's impossible for it to be true.

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No, Brother is a fellow human being. Can you show me other wise.. it's been a long while since I read the Bible.. any version...
Not according to the Bible. I'm defining the term in that way. You can redefine the word however you want, but just understand that I'm using the term "brother" (or "sister") to refer to a fellow believer in Jesus Christ, for the purposes of this discussion. I will also use the term "brother" to refer to a sibling that is directly related to a person by genetics or adoption.

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But you only speak of the evil in the world.. what about the ..(jeeezzzz...I sound like a hippy compared to you)... all the wonderful things.. that man does.. even those not of God....
Isaiah 64:6a
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like