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Old 03-04-2009, 04:09 AM
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Well, I actually agree with Rush Limbaugh when he said, "I hope he fails." If Obama is trying to turn this nation into a socialist, nanny-state, then why in the world would any American want that to succeed? That's completely contrary to the values that our nation's founders fought and died for.

Obama is borrowing our future generations into bankruptcy, punishing the very people who create jobs with increased taxes and wealth redistribution, and giving handouts to those people who don't even work. There's nothing American about any of that.
You're wrong. By the time Obama and the press are done convincing everybody this is what we need, it will be American. God save us.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:18 AM
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Well, I actually agree with Rush Limbaugh when he said, "I hope he fails." If Obama is trying to turn this nation into a socialist, nanny-state, then why in the world would any American want that to succeed? That's completely contrary to the values that our nation's founders fought and died for.

Obama is borrowing our future generations into bankruptcy, punishing the very people who create jobs with increased taxes and wealth redistribution, and giving handouts to those people who don't even work. There's nothing American about any of that.

Out of curiosity, were you happy when Bush borrowed our future generations into bankruptcy?
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:21 AM
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Out of curiosity, were you happy when Bush borrowed our future generations into bankruptcy?
Are you kidding me, Nates a Republican, Bush Jr could do no wrong.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:25 AM
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You're wrong. By the time Obama and the press are done convincing everybody this is what we need, it will be American. God save us.
Not the America that I spent 10 years of my life defending in the military. Fortunately, if and when Obama fails, then we might see a dramatic return to true conservatism and small government. Then we might see a return to the wisdom of Ronald Reagan:

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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:27 AM
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Out of curiosity, were you happy when Bush borrowed our future generations into bankruptcy?
Not at all. Bush Jr. is partially responsible for making this mess worse. However, it was a Democratically controlled Congress who passed that first bailout in October. Y'know, the Democratically controlled Congress that had a lower approval rating than President Bush, of which Obama was a part.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:47 AM
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Not at all. Bush Jr. is partially responsible for making this mess worse. However, it was a Democratically controlled Congress who passed that first bailout in October. Y'know, the Democratically controlled Congress that had a lower approval rating than President Bush, of which Obama was a part.
An yet that same bailout was hugely endorsed by your candidate. A bailout that came in Oct of Bushs last few months in office under his second term. Bottom line is Bush did just as much damage to future generations as Barrack (might) do.

I guess Barrack should do nothing, borrow money, throw it into 2 wars but add a new one some place else. I mean its worked so great these past 4+ years.

Besides Mccain if he was elected would have introduced his own stimulus package. So regardless we could very well be in the same boat.
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:57 AM
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Not at all. Bush Jr. is partially responsible for making this mess worse. However, it was a Democratically controlled Congress who passed that first bailout in October. Y'know, the Democratically controlled Congress that had a lower approval rating than President Bush, of which Obama was a part.
Who was president when the first bailout money went out? Which president authorized it? Wasn't it Henry Paulson, the Republican Secretary of the treasury who was designated by Bush to help put the first bailout through? Obama inherited the crap left to him by Bush and his irresponsible running of our country for the 8 years prior to him taking office.



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Some more great moments in the Bush Legacy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...t-moments.html

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...age/index.html

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Old 03-04-2009, 05:09 AM
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Besides Mccain if he was elected would have introduced his own stimulus package. So regardless we could very well be in the same boat.
That's why I don't believe McCain was a true conservative. Conservatives aren't supposed to be about big government.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:13 AM
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Who was president when the first bailout money went out? Which president authorized it? Wasn't it Henry Paulson, the Republican Secretary of the treasury who was designated by Bush to help put the first bailout through? Obama inherited the crap left to him by Bush and his irresponsible running of our country for the 8 years prior to him taking office.
So, logically, if you hate Bush because of the first bailout and think it was a bad idea, then you must really hate Obama. If Bush Jr. started up the vehicle that is driving this nation to economic ruin, then Obama didn't jump in and shut the engine off, he put to the metal and shifted into 4th gear!

If Bush was irresponsible in his spending, the Obama is bordering on criminal.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:18 AM
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BTW, I'm closer to a Libertarian in my political views. The Republican party has just become too liberal for me.
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