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Old 07-24-2010, 06:32 PM
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There are ways to ghost/spoof/mask IP addresses so that there is no way to track the actual IP. If the people who streamed the event know what they are doing, then Dana will be up the creek without a paddle.....wasting thousands of dollars in legal fees. Now if these people didn't take the time to ghost their ip then it wont take much for Dana to find out who the perpetrators are. It all comes down to knowledge.....knowledge is power.
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:50 PM
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There are many people, myself included, who don't always have the funds or time to watch a PPV when it is broadcast, as much as we would want to watch certain fights. Or as Tyburn has pointed out, some markets don't have the broadcasts available at all.
There is a legal alternative to pirating that I have used: buy the DVDs from Amazon. They are reasonably priced. Of course this means waiting; do I always wait? No; I'll sacrifice and pay for some events such as those Matt is in.

Alternatively they could always make low cost legal downloads available through iTunes or other such services.
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:22 PM
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knowledge is power.
Thats what BJ Penn says....Its also pretty much what the Snake says in the Garden of Eden
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:24 PM
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There are ways to ghost/spoof/mask IP addresses so that there is no way to track the actual IP. If the people who streamed the event know what they are doing, then Dana will be up the creek without a paddle.....wasting thousands of dollars in legal fees. Now if these people didn't take the time to ghost their ip then it wont take much for Dana to find out who the perpetrators are. It all comes down to knowledge.....knowledge is power.
I wouldn't doubt it if these streams were being broadcast in countries where these silly little laws can't touch them.
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:58 PM
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I wouldn't doubt it if these streams were being broadcast in countries where these silly little laws can't touch them.
I thought copy right laws were universal
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:32 PM
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I thought copy right laws were universal
No law is completely universal.

However, it would be more of a privacy issue that would likely keep the UFC from being able to pursue streamers in some countries. Not everybody is so quick to turn over the identities of their customers.

The UFC needs to realize they are fighting a losing battle, and there are better ways to lure some of the people who stream over to buying the PPV's and to deal with the issue.

1. Lower the cost
2. Lower the volume
3. Offer incentives for ordering the PPV
4. Offer a lower cost, but lower quality, stream online
5. Shut up and count your money you rich casino-lovin bastards

For the record, the UFC can go ahead and shut down every stream in existence. Anybody who has been on the internet for 10 minutes knows that streams usually suck anyway and if you wait about an hour or two after the event you can ALWAYS find a copy of the event uploaded to the web, and usually in HD. (then you can burn your own bootleg copies to DVD and sell them out of your trunk at the mall along with those cool "ChokeouT" shirts you had printed up)
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:00 PM
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No law is completely universal.

However, it would be more of a privacy issue that would likely keep the UFC from being able to pursue streamers in some countries. Not everybody is so quick to turn over the identities of their customers.

The UFC needs to realize they are fighting a losing battle, and there are better ways to lure some of the people who stream over to buying the PPV's and to deal with the issue.

1. Lower the cost
2. Lower the volume
3. Offer incentives for ordering the PPV
4. Offer a lower cost, but lower quality, stream online
5. Shut up and count your money you rich casino-lovin bastards

For the record, the UFC can go ahead and shut down every stream in existence. Anybody who has been on the internet for 10 minutes knows that streams usually suck anyway and if you wait about an hour or two after the event you can ALWAYS find a copy of the event uploaded to the web, and usually in HD. (then you can burn your own bootleg copies to DVD and sell them out of your trunk at the mall along with those cool "ChokeouT" shirts you had printed up)
I love it!

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Old 07-25-2010, 08:57 PM
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No law is completely universal.

However, it would be more of a privacy issue that would likely keep the UFC from being able to pursue streamers in some countries. Not everybody is so quick to turn over the identities of their customers.

The UFC needs to realize they are fighting a losing battle, and there are better ways to lure some of the people who stream over to buying the PPV's and to deal with the issue.

1. Lower the cost
2. Lower the volume
3. Offer incentives for ordering the PPV
4. Offer a lower cost, but lower quality, stream online
5. Shut up and count your money you rich casino-lovin bastards

For the record, the UFC can go ahead and shut down every stream in existence. Anybody who has been on the internet for 10 minutes knows that streams usually suck anyway and if you wait about an hour or two after the event you can ALWAYS find a copy of the event uploaded to the web, and usually in HD. (then you can burn your own bootleg copies to DVD and sell them out of your trunk at the mall along with those cool "ChokeouT" shirts you had printed up)
Do they have a "pay per fight" system up yet? I would enjoy that.. paying for some of the fights but not all.........
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Old 07-25-2010, 09:44 PM
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Do they have a "pay per fight" system up yet? I would enjoy that.. paying for some of the fights but not all.........
The UFC has an "On Demand" service on it's website, and I believe it has for quite a while. Heck, you can even buy single fights and entire cards through Zune videos on Xbox Live, but go figure they still charge the same price even when the card is 100 years old.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:43 PM
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You know whats also funny. The fight is aired Sat night here in the US. By Sunday morning there are already 1000's of sites up with the torrent.

JB you may have a point with offering other avenues for fans, but wouldn't that also do more harm then good to the legal PPV buyers? I am not positive how many would abandon free streams for paying for a cheaper stream.

I think the WWE tried a similar thing with its PPV and I am not sure of its success.
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