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Old 06-14-2010, 11:52 PM
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Default UFC being blamed for ALLEGED "Hate" crime....

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/10061..._vancouver_ufc

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Gay bashing victims blame UFC fight event

VANCOUVER (CBC) - The Vancouver Police Department says its hate-crime investigator is looking into an apparent gay bashing over the weekend, which the victims are blaming on an Ultimate Fighting Championship event.
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But Const. Lindsey Houghton said there's no evidence that's the case.

David Holtzman and Peter Regier say they were taunted with homophobic slurs and repeatedly punched outside their downtown Vancouver apartment on Saturday.

The couple believes the attackers were coming from the UFC mixed martial arts event at GM Place.

Police are investigating the incident but so far no arrests have been made. The suspects are described as Indo-Canadian men in their 20s who were both wearing jeans and T-shirts.

After the mixed martial arts event finished, Vancouver police said it went off without any major problems.

But Holtzman and Regier live on Keefer Street just a few blocks from GM Place and believe they were attacked by two men who were drinking at the event.

The couple was out Saturday evening, but when they came home around 10:45 p.m. PT, they found two men near their front door one drinking and the other urinating on the wall.

Regier told CBC News he and Holtzman asked them not to.

"I didn't think it was unreasonable for us to object and say, 'Hey guys this is our home. We live here. Please don't pee on our home,'" said Regier.

That's when the two men attacked them, the couple said.

"I just went down and protected myself, and I got hit in the back of the head about 50 times," said Holtzman.

Both suffered scratches, cuts and concussions, and one of them had to be taken to hospital for treatment. The pair told CBC News they believe the attack was a hate crime.

"They started saying all kinds of homophobic slurs," said Regier.

Regier and Holtzman said the city is partly to blame for holding violent events such as the UFC in the neighbourhood.

"You know, for us, it raises some larger concerns about, I guess for the city. I had no opinion about UFC coming to Vancouver originally but you know, look at what happened to us steps away from where the fight went down, we're assaulted, just steps away," said Regier.

Holtzman said, unlike the recent crowds downtown for the Olympics, the UFC event created a different mood on the street.

"UFC, like fighting, is about fighting and it's about testosterone. When you see someone like that, what are you going to do? You're going to react like in a fighting mode. I mean it promotes fighting. That's what it's about," said Holtzman.

"I think the city has to give a good think about UFC, and I am going to obviously be an opponent to this because of what happened to me," he said.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:38 AM
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Those accusations are gay.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:14 AM
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What about hockey??? There is fighting in hockey. Hockey is also about testosterone....That is a lame article IMO. The UFC has nothing to do with peoples individual actions toward a certain group of people.
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What about all of these PRE-UFC 115 hate crimes in Vancouver?

6/11/2008 - http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Three_so...ing_hate_crime
7/7/2009 - http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...-reaction.html
4/9/2009 - http://www.xtra.ca/public/Vancouver/...uver-6575.aspx

For lots more: http://www.google.com/search?q=hate+...ient=firefox-a

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Old 06-15-2010, 01:32 AM
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What about hockey??? There is fighting in hockey. Hockey is also about testosterone....That is a lame article IMO. The UFC has nothing to do with peoples individual actions toward a certain group of people.
Exactly.

UFC 115 took place in the same building that hosts the Vancouver Canucks.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:56 AM
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This passage from the article is what really makes me want to puke.

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"UFC, like fighting, is about fighting and it's about testosterone. When you see someone like that, what are you going to do? You're going to react like in a fighting mode. I mean it promotes fighting. That's what it's about," said Holtzman.
If ever there was a time when the sound of a person's voice could be heard loud and clear through only viewing words on a screen, this is one of them.

and then there is this gem....

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"I just went down and protected myself, and I got hit in the back of the head about 50 times," said Holtzman.
Really, sorry to hear that you and your "partner" got beat up by a couple of drunk idiots, but clearly you weren't doing much of a job protecting yourself if you got hit 50 times in the back of the head. Also, the perp that was punching you in the back of your head must have been my 87 year old grandmother, because if somebody with any shred of strength was punching somebody in the back of their head that many times there would have been a lot more serious injuries.

Bottom line, these guys were not only too weak to defend themselves from two drunken idiots, but they are attention seeking drama-queens who are taking what is nothing more than a drunk altercation on a Saturday night and trying to make the focus on the fact that they are gay. They don't care about the UFC, they are just using the UFC as a scapegoat for their argument so they can go cry to press like the little girls they wish they were. In my opinion, it's the same reason most gay dudes talk with that fake accent that is radiating from the quotes in that article. They want to say "Hey everybody, look at me! I'm gay and don't you forget it!".

I didn't know Vancouver was San Francisco Jr. That explains a lot when you think about why it cost the UFC so much to insure the event. Too many uptight people looking to make a quick buck or a name for themselves through a lawsuit or the press.
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Man , those guys are acting like a couple of queers , what a faggy thing to say


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Exactly.

UFC 115 took place in the same building that hosts the Vancouver Canucks.
Yeah I got my ass kicked bad, I guess thats what happens when you wear a Kane Jersey there...
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:20 AM
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They prolly meant wwe


cause #1 wwe is kinda gay


#2 you don't wear pants and shirts in the ufc you wear fighting trunks


" The suspects are described as Indo-Canadian men in their 20s who were both wearing jeans and T-shirts."



Anyone else noticed they blamed the ufc and not the alcohol? shouldn't someone be proposing to ban alcohol before they propose to ban the ufc?







#3 hits to the back of the head are illegal



"I just went down and protected myself, and I got hit in the back of the head about 50 times," said Holtzman.

besides the ref woulda stopped it at about 12 or 13 unanswered blows, unless of course it was mazagatti, in which case 1 or 2 blows would have been enough on some nights while other nights would have required another 50 unchecked illegal shots








Holtzman said, unlike the recent crowds downtown for the Olympics, the UFC event created a different mood on the street. A less gay mood perhaps?

"UFC, like fighting, is about fighting and it's about testosterone. When you see someone like that, what are you going to do? You're going to react like in a fighting mode. I mean it promotes fighting. That's what it's about," said Holtzman. And you obviously don't want any testosterone
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:23 AM
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and when he went down what did he protect?, obviously not his head, cause it got pummeled 50 times, and why would he protect the jewels, it's not like they're needed for him.... he is anti-testosterone
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