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Old 02-22-2009, 11:40 PM
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I say nate would take maia because if you look at the ed herman fight, most people count him as a b level fighter with good bjj and he was able to give him problems and get some good gnp in. so if you take a A level fighter with great bjj and and strikeing that went from a c- to an A-/A I just see him not being able to take nate down and if he does a little bit of gnp than stand up and own him on his feet. sonnon lost becuse he seemed content rolling with him
Ehh Sonnen did not lose because he seemed content rolling,
Sonnen got swept because he was pinned against the cage, then got put in a slick triangle.

They weren't rolling when the action started.
Also, Herman was only his second UFC fight, and he finished him before the end of the second.
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Old 02-23-2009, 12:10 AM
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I don't see how anyone can put Nate ahead of Maia in the title picture. Marquardt has only won two fights in a row now; he couldn't even handle Leites. Maia's won five straight, and he's finished every single one of them. To even consider Nate better than Maia is just stupid.

I think Maia would beat him, straight up. How, I don't know, but either by decision or submission for sure. Nate's good, but I don't think he's ready to fight for a title yet. If he was to beat Maia or someone similar, then maybe I'd give him one. He hasn't done enough in my opinion.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:03 AM
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I've felt Nate was over rated since he came to the UFC.

He won 4 fights to get his title shot,
The only one he managed to finish was Crafton Wallace.

I don't know why everybody felt he was going to be the guy to topple Silva.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:35 PM
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Nate has 2 wins since his last lost.
I don't care if the loss was by points, it was a loss fair and square.
He fought dirty, he paid the price.

Maia is 5 - 0 in the UFC, with 5 impressive submission wins.

It isn't like Nate's fight with Anderson was a war, or super close or something,
I don't see why people think he deserves a shot before Maia.
But who has Maia fought? He needs to fight a top fighter first.

Let Nate and Maia fight and winner gets the shot.

I think Nate TKOs him BTW.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:40 PM
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There's no doubt that Maia's BJJ is one of the best in the world, and probably the best of all MW's in the world, but to get a shot at Silva, he needs to beat a top 10. IMO, Nate vs. Maia, winner faces Yushin Okami, that winner gets Silva.

EDIT, just found out that Okami gets the winner of Silva/Leites.
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