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Old 04-12-2010, 05:12 PM
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When I heard Andy talking about the disrespect that Maia showed him.. I really wondered what he was talking about.. I am a fairly large MMA nerd..and I have wached all the surrounding hype of the various PPVs and read alot.. just in general an MMA nerd...

So when I heard about the disrespect.. I went looking through my DVR.. through a few magizines.. and such.. wan't really finding anything Maia said that was "dis'ing" Andy... But I did find THIS: http://www.cagepotato.com/fact-check...anderson-silva


While I am not a huge fan of Cage Potatoe.. I thought it was well written..

The videos are great though!!!!


The unsatisfying post-fight explanation has become something of a tradition for UFC middleweight champ Anderson Silva. After putting on performances that are either bizarre, boring, or both, he inevitably ends up at the press conference after the event, trying to explain through his manager/translator, Ed Soares, why he just forced us to sit through another performance that featured only occasional bursts of offense among extended periods of posturing and playing.

After a decision win over Demian Maia at UFC 112 that saw Silva essentially stop fighting altogether in the final two rounds, the story went that he was trying to punish Maia for his “disrespect.” In the lunchtime video interview above Soares repeats that claim, insisting that Maia “talked a lot of crap before the fight, and said a lot of things personally about Anderson.” Because of such an unprecedented show of disrespect – who ever heard of talking trash about an opponent before a fight, after all? – Silva got emotional and “wanted to make him pay.”

Here’s where we could ask why making Maia pay didn’t include any sustained attempts to knock him out at any point during the fight. We could also ask how spending the final two rounds running in circles was supposed to make Maia suffer. But we won’t. Instead we’ll ask, how exactly did Maia disrespect Silva before the fight?

Here’s one pre-fight interview where Maia describes the champ as “the best fighter in the world” as well as “the most complete fighter in the world.” Even when Maia says that Silva can be defeated, his reasoning seems predicated solely on the fact that, at least as far as we know, Silva is a human being. Unless Silva can produce some DNA tests that will refute that claim, he can’t really get too pissed off about that statement.

Additionally, in a story on UFC.com Maia said of Silva:

“What can I say, he’s the best fighter in the world, pound for pound. He’s good in everything that he does, and so far it’s the biggest challenge of my life.”

Oh, the insolence of this guy.

What seems to have irked Silva more, however, was Maia’s pre-fight remark about trying to take one of “The Spider’s” eight limbs home with him. This obviously wasn’t intended as a literal prediction by Maia, who presumably knows that Silva isn’t an actual spider any more than Keith Jardine is an actual dean at the prestigious Mean University, but rather it was a bit of word play expressly for the purposes of the pre-fight hype reel.

What’s more, as pre-fight trash talk goes it’s incredibly tame. When Dan Henderson said that Silva was not the best fighter in the world prior to their match-up at UFC 82, Silva didn’t respond by trying to humiliate him over the course of five rounds. Instead he put him away in two. When James Irvin cast doubts on Silva’s punching power, he was repaid with a quick knockout finish. So what unforgivable trash talk sin did Maia commit that could possibly justify the taunting and the mockery that we saw on Saturday?

We can probably find our answer in the inconsistency of Silva’s post-fight remarks. First, in the Octagon with Joe Rogan, he said he didn’t know what came over him. Just a few minutes later in the post-fight presser, he had figured out that what came over him was rage at Maia’s “disrespect.” Funny how quickly he put that together. (<-- Well said!!)

The more we see this kind of behavior from Silva, the more we have to consider that something in his mind just isn’t working right. If he can really see disrespect in Maia’s lukewarm trash talk, and if he really thinks what he did in Abu Dhabi was a suitable response, then this is not a man with his feet planted firmly on the ground. Maybe the culprit isn’t all the trash talk, but rather the praise. Maybe you can only hear about how great you are for so long before it starts to go to your head. Maybe that’s when you become an intolerable jerk who is completely disconnected from reality.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:16 PM
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People really need to let it go.

If you don't like Silva, don't buy the cards he is on.

(although you will all likely buy it even quicker now at the thought he may lose)
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:19 PM
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[QUOTE=J.B.;110703]People really need to let it go.

If you don't like Silva, don't buy the cards he is on.

tell that to Dana White and the folks that pay this man's salary to do a job.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:26 PM
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Sorry.. it's really hard for me to let it go.... He was a fool. A complete and total bauble...

If my kid acted like that, he would be in a world of hurt.

And I will prolly still buy an Andy card.. just cause there are bound to be other fighters that I want to see on it...

I bought 112 cause some guy named Hughes was fighting on it. That was the draw for me.

Andy fights great.. but he isn't a great fighter.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:30 PM
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tell that to Dana White and the folks that pay this man's salary to do a job.
He did his job, and he did it well.

I was thoroughly entertained and I will watch him fight anytime, and I may be alone in my opinion on THIS forum, but I am not alone.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:34 PM
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You are entitled to your opinion although I find it hard to comprehend. Silva showed some awesome striking in this fight. I will give him that.

I am not a fan of hiding behind the ref, running in circles in the cage to the point where the ref warns you to engage with the other fighter. If you like all those antics, why watch the UFC? why not watch the WWE?
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:37 PM
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Sorry.. it's really hard for me to let it go.... He was a fool. A complete and total bauble...

If my kid acted like that, he would be in a world of hurt.

And I will prolly still buy an Andy card.. just cause there are bound to be other fighters that I want to see on it...

I bought 112 cause some guy named Hughes was fighting on it. That was the draw for me.

Andy fights great.. but he isn't a great fighter.
I watched it for Matt too, and because I am fan of the sport and all that comes with it. I actually didn't even know Silva was on the 112 card until last week. Wonder why that is? Probably because he was fighting Damian Maia and not somebody who I felt was gonna make it a tough fight for Silva.

Anderson Silva is not your child and he owes you no explanation for his game plan or "antics". That is the fundamental difference I have with people who are so pissed off about this, I don't really see what Silva was doing as "monkey dancing" "showboating" or "timidity".
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I watched it for Matt too, and because I am fan of the sport and all that comes with it. I actually didn't even know Silva was on the 112 card until last week. Wonder why that is? Probably because he was fighting Damian Maia and not somebody who I felt was gonna make it a tough fight for Silva.

Anderson Silva is not your child and he owes you no explanation for his game plan or "antics". That is the fundamental difference I have with people who are so pissed off about this, I don't really see what Silva was doing as "monkey dancing" "showboating" or "timidity".

He wasn't being timid when he was yelling and cussing at Maia.. Andy was being a bauble... That shouldn't be part of the sport.. well.. maybe the walkout.. but once you get in the cage.. beating on your chest, and cussing out your opponet.. running for the last round.. and mocking your opponet.. well.. makes you a loser.. IMO.. a bauble... Best word for Andy now.

and I like Maia.. his ground game is EXCELLENT!!! I didn't think he could be Andy either.. but at least a fight would have been good.. that even barley happened.
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You are entitled to your opinion although I find it hard to comprehend. Silva showed some awesome striking in this fight. I will give him that.

I am not a fan of hiding behind the ref, running in circles in the cage to the point where the ref warns you to engage with the other fighter. If you like all those antics, why watch the UFC? why not watch the WWE?
When did the ref warn him?

Oh yeah, you mean with 60 seconds left in the fight when Anderson had already pitched a virtual shutout.

Don't come at me with the WWE comments just because I have different view. If you are going to make a comparison, at least make it reasonable and logical. Anderson Silva using bait and hook tactics is not anything like the WWE. It's part of the fight game, and if you don't like it, don't watch him fight. Not much more to say about it.
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He wasn't being timid when he was yelling and cussing at Maia.. Andy was being a bauble...

and I like Maia.. his ground game is EXCELLENT!!! I didn't think he could be Andy either.. but at least a fight would have been good.. that even barley happened.
Oh come on man...

Every other word out of Dana White's mouth is F*** this and F*** that. Even Joe Rogan openly swears during the commentary. Yet, I am supposed to get mad at Silva for a little jawing during the fight?

He was yelling at Maia because he wanted to bait him into being reckless. It's actually smart if you think about it, but he could pay for that one day.

Look at Rashad, another guy everybody blindly hates for no reason, he was jawing with Machida and what did Machida do? He knocked him out.

If these guys or the UFC don't like Silva's style or manner, then do something about it.
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