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Old 02-13-2010, 01:26 AM
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I guess those people should get a job and pay for their healthcare.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:08 AM
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He would tell people to depend on GOD, not the government, to take care of them.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:12 AM
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For every person that dies in a terrorist attack globally, 58 people in the US die due to lack of health care.
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:39 AM
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For every person that dies in a terrorist attack globally, 58 people in the US die due to lack of health care.

I would love to see this study of people in the US that die due to lack of health care. There are free clinics in EVERY county in America. There is a hospital in EVERY county seat or the adjoining county that has to accept people, insurance or not. I wonder what these people are supposedly dying from.

For instance, we have people who come in regularly with diabetes that are in crisis because they don't take care of themselves. When they die due to uncontrolled diabetes, are they counted as died due to lack of health care?

Also, we have people EVERYDAY that come to the ER and want a prescription for their high blood pressure medicine. They haven't taken it in three months because they have been out, no money, etc, etc. I always take the time to tell these people of our free clinic that will follow their care, monitor their blood pressure long term, AND they give them their meds for FREE. You would be shocked at how many times the answer I receive is, "Yeah, I know but it takes 3 weeks to get an appointment and you have to sit in there half a day."

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I would love to see this study of people in the US that die due to lack of health care. There are free clinics in EVERY county in America. There is a hospital in EVERY county seat or the adjoining county that has to accept people, insurance or not. I wonder what these people are supposedly dying from.

For instance, we have people who come in regularly with diabetes that are in crisis because they don't take care of themselves. When they die due to uncontrolled diabetes, are they counted as died due to lack of health care?

Also, we have people EVERYDAY that come to the ER and want a prescription for their high blood pressure medicine. They haven't taken it in three months because they have been out, no money, etc, etc. I always take the time to tell these people of our free clinic that will follow their care, monitor their blood pressure long term, AND they give them their meds for FREE. You would be shocked at how many times the answer I receive is, "Yeah, I know but it takes 3 weeks to get an appointment and you have to sit in there half a day."

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something I have been meaning to ask you, but i kept fogetting. What is your expereince with the average person that comes into your free clinics??? I ask because, a little while back, I was visiting family of mine in New York City, and their son is an ER resident, and he was doing some volunteer/rotation work at a free clinic. When he took us to see where this clinc was, it was literally full of: drug addicts, prostitutes, probable pimps, and other bad lookin guys. And he was telling me that all he gets asked to do are: HIV, hepatitis, pregnancy and other STI/drug realted tests. Granted, this is an inner city clinic, and its only one of them....I just wanted to know what things were like in your town? If they are anything like that, i can imaigne why you average guy wouldnt wanna come near a place like that.
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Old 02-13-2010, 03:54 AM
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something I have been meaning to ask you, but i kept fogetting. What is your expereince with the average person that comes into your free clinics??? I ask because, a little while back, I was visiting family of mine in New York City, and their son is an ER resident, and he was doing some volunteer/rotation work at a free clinic. When he took us to see where this clinc was, it was literally full of: drug addicts, prostitutes, probable pimps, and other bad lookin guys. And he was telling me that all he gets asked to do are: HIV, hepatitis, pregnancy and other STI/drug realted tests. Granted, this is an inner city clinic, and its only one of them....I just wanted to know what things were like in your town? If they are anything like that, i can imaigne why you average guy wouldnt wanna come near a place like that.
You can get those done there but I have done work there also and for the most part it is people with High blood pressure, Diabetes, etc.We have an free HIV clinic that is separate. They would be referred there. The health dept does free screening for STD's and pregnancy tests. So those are kinda steered to a different place. This place is more geared towards people who need monitored free health care and help with their medications.
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Do you think retired veterans should get their health care as it is now set up with the VA or should they abolish it and make them work to get their health care?
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Do you think retired veterans should get their health care as it is now set up with the VA or should they abolish it and make them work to get their health care?
That's a different situation. The free healthcare that our retired veterans receive is something that they earned after devoting 15-20+ years of their lives to serving our country.
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Do you think retired veterans should get their health care as it is now set up with the VA or should they abolish it and make them work to get their health care?

Sometimes I believe they might as well. We have a VA clinic here now but before Vets had to travel to stinky Birmingham to see a doctor. And you might as well plan to spend a night because if you weren't one of the first ones to sign in for the day then you may not be seen. Even if you had the rare appt with a specialist, you still may not be seen. They would just move you to the next day. Atrocious!
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Old 02-13-2010, 02:38 PM
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Sometimes I believe they might as well. We have a VA clinic here now but before Vets had to travel to stinky Birmingham to see a doctor. And you might as well plan to spend a night because if you weren't one of the first ones to sign in for the day then you may not be seen. Even if you had the rare appt with a specialist, you still may not be seen. They would just move you to the next day. Atrocious!
Yeah, I have to drive nearly 2 hours to the VA, and it is an all day ordeal, so unless I have a major health problem or a routine visit that is scheduled weeks in advance, I just go to a local doctor and pay for it. I have had to go for major problems before, though, and was thankful to have access to the VA for sure!
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