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Old 01-07-2010, 02:55 AM
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Oh great...I'm way too high maintenance for that! People get your crap together!

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In the Old Testament, GOD judged the nation of Israel by allowing them to be conquered and made into slaves. Usually when He judges nations, it's with earthly hardship.
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:08 AM
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God is going to judge people you mean...
Now, did you read NateR's excellent summation of my point??

..and understand it

We won't stop sinning, and God will pull His hand of protection from us. It's a guarantee.
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:11 AM
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Now, did you read NateR's excellent summation of my point??

..and understand it

We won't stop sinning, and God will pull His hand of protection from us. It's a guarantee.
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Now, did you read NateR's excellent summation of my point??

..and understand it

We won't stop sinning, and God will pull His hand of protection from us. It's a guarantee.
Will????

I think it's already happened unfortunately.....
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I would agree that "these" people should be having babies but don't you think you're punishing the wrong person?? It's the parent's who in many cases are selfish, irresponsible and uncaring yet it's the child that gets murdered.

Make no mistake.. it is a child and it is murder. Using less offensive terminology like the pro death movement does won't change the facts.
Right.

But realistically our society cannot afford to just product countless unwanted children.
Unwanted children very typically become criminals, etc....
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Old 01-07-2010, 05:58 AM
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But realistically our society cannot afford to just product countless unwanted children.
Unwanted children very typically become criminals, etc....
(don't bother arguing the point, look up statistics)
Birth control is available practically on every corner. Condoms are available for free in health clinics.

Adoption is always an option. American babies available for adoption are so rare that couples frequently have to adopt from other countries.

In addition, please see the thread in the Christianity section started by AdamT. Currently, America's fertility rate is right at replacement level of 2.1 children per couple. If it weren't for immigration and a higher birthrate among Latinos, our country wouldn't even be at replacement levels. Many European countries have fertility rates below 2, even as low as 1.1. These countries are literally in a death spiral of demographic collapse. We have lost the idea that children are a blessing. We need to take better care of our kids and encourage adoption. Abortion is not the answer to our problems, it is a problem.
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:21 AM
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Right.

But realistically our society cannot afford to just product countless unwanted children.
Unwanted children very typically become criminals, etc....
(don't bother arguing the point, look up statistics)
You should probably take your own advice and get an education before spouting off ridiculous nonsense like this.
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Birth control is available practically on every corner. Condoms are available for free in health clinics.

Adoption is always an option. American babies available for adoption are so rare that couples frequently have to adopt from other countries.

In addition, please see the thread in the Christianity section started by AdamT. Currently, America's fertility rate is right at replacement level of 2.1 children per couple. If it weren't for immigration and a higher birthrate among Latinos, our country wouldn't even be at replacement levels. Many European countries have fertility rates below 2, even as low as 1.1. These countries are literally in a death spiral of demographic collapse. We have lost the idea that children are a blessing. We need to take better care of our kids and encourage adoption. Abortion is not the answer to our problems, it is a problem.
Yes, sadly the Europe, the place where I was born, what we know today will be virtually extinct within 50 years. It will be an ugly place filled with violence as in the Days of Noah mostlike. But when you don't have kids, you pay that price. Be prepared.
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But realistically our society cannot afford to just product countless unwanted children.
Unwanted children very typically become criminals, etc....
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I have heard other people say this. Some say that those types of people don't need to reproduce.
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