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Old 09-11-2009, 03:51 PM
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it's not a bad idea ... if the gov't is going to pay for universal health care, than they are going to want to ensure people are taking better care of themselves ... taxing things like soda, cigs, alcohol is a good idea .. they are not saying you can't consume them, you are just gonna pay extra ......
So, you don't believe that people should be free to live their lives as they see fit and instead should have their lifestyles dictated to them by the government? Because that sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me, not a free society.

If the government thinks that socialized medicine gives it the right to tell it's citizens what they are or are not allowed to eat, then I think that's one of the greatest arguments against socialized medicine.

I've lived in a free country my whole life, so just the notion that someone out there thinks this is a good idea is kind of frightening. Personally, I prefer freedom to a nanny state.
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So, you don't believe that people should be free to live their lives as they see fit and instead should have their lifestyles dictated to them by the government? Because that sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me, not a free society.

If the government thinks that socialized medicine gives it the right to tell it's citizens what they are or are not allowed to eat, then I think that's one of the greatest arguments against socialized medicine.

I've lived in a free country my whole life, so just the notion that someone out there thinks this is a good idea is kind of frightening. Personally, I prefer freedom to a nanny state.
so you are saying this is the very first thing any government has ever taxed?
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:58 PM
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so you are saying this is the very first thing any government has ever taxed?
Clearly that's not what I'm saying at all:

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But this wouldn't be the first time that lawmakers have proposed some bizarre taxes. I once read that Benjamin Franklin proposed a tax on curtains and window-blinds to prevent people from sleeping when the sun was up.
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Clearly that's not what I'm saying at all:



well it sure seems like it...governments from all over the world are constantly trying to increase tax revenue in anyway they can and as far as taxes go this one is not bad at all,
and besides they aren't telling you not to drink soda they are just taking advantage of the fact that you do drink soda,
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well it sure seems like it...
That's only because you aren't paying attention.
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That's only because you aren't paying attention.
oh I'm paying attention all right...
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:44 PM
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oh I'm paying attention all right...
So, you're deliberately misrepresenting what I say in order to goad me into a fight.
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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So, you're deliberately misrepresenting what I say in order to goad me into a fight.
you dont need any goading,besides i didn't miss represent anything you said..
i was just looking for some clarification.
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So, you're deliberately misrepresenting what I say in order to goad me into a fight.

Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.


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Man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.


i'm amazed Nate that some people around here think you cant discuss things with someone without their help.
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