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Old 09-03-2009, 04:36 PM
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:26 PM
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If what the article says is true about the Dad threatening to kill her, then I would of course support her. But we don't always know really what happened, I could easily see a teenager who ran away from home and is using that as an excuse not to go back. I'm curious as to why she didn't call the police, or even the Reverend she went to, it was the Parents who had to contact the police. There are many possibilities here, I'm just speculating on a few. If the Dad didn't want her anymore, why would he call the police? And if she felt threatened, why didn't she call the police? Just some thoughts.
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:40 PM
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If what the article says is true about the Dad threatening to kill her, then I would of course support her. But we don't always know really what happened, I could easily see a teenager who ran away from home and is using that as an excuse not to go back. I'm curious as to why she didn't call the police, or even the Reverend she went to, it was the Parents who had to contact the police. There are many possibilities here, I'm just speculating on a few. If the Dad didn't want her anymore, why would he call the police? And if she felt threatened, why didn't she call the police? Just some thoughts.
In Islam if your daughter continues to live the shame remains on your family so he would need to kill her in order to gain his families honor back.

When your a 17 yr old kid and you call your police to tell them your parents said they are going to kill you they usually dont take you seriously. Parents say **** like that all the time.

Islam makes you do crazy stuff.

Her best bet was to run away.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:30 PM
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In Islam if your daughter continues to live the shame remains on your family so he would need to kill her in order to gain his families honor back.

When your a 17 yr old kid and you call your police to tell them your parents said they are going to kill you they usually dont take you seriously. Parents say **** like that all the time.

Islam makes you do crazy stuff.

Her best bet was to run away.
I'm not saying this couldn't very well be the situation, it is a very likely possibility. I am just saying we don't know what all is going on here. I know a few practicing Islams, and they aren't as "hardcore" I guess you could say, they would never think about killing their daughter for anything. I don't know those people, they could be like that, but I could also see a teenager crying wolf here, like many do.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:01 PM
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I'm not saying this couldn't very well be the situation, it is a very likely possibility. I am just saying we don't know what all is going on here. I know a few practicing Islams, and they aren't as "hardcore" I guess you could say, they would never think about killing their daughter for anything. I don't know those people, they could be like that, but I could also see a teenager crying wolf here, like many do.
Mercy and honor killings happen everyday in the middle east bro.

Trust me they happen really often.
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:18 AM
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Islam makes you do crazy stuff.
I'd say that that extremists believers who practice Islam and Christianity do crazy stuff. Heck, I'll lump in extremists in just about everything in that matter.

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Mercy and honor killings happen everyday in the middle east bro.

Trust me they happen really often.
While I know that they happen, where do you get your information showing them to happen at the rate you say?
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:02 AM
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Mercy and honor killings happen everyday in the middle east bro.

Trust me they happen really often.
I think they've happened here too with people of that culture. I would not take it lightly that her life is in danger and I don't thnk she should be returned to her parents' home.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:23 PM
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I found this unfortunate update about the girl that Crisco had posted about last fall. Please pray for her.

I find it frustrating that we have 12 million + illegal immigrants in this country (including criminals and gang members) and they are talking about deporting this poor girl with cancer who will likely be murdered if she is deported back to her home country. Absolute madness.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/25...r-friend-says/



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The Muslim teenager from Ohio who converted to Christianity and fled to Florida in fear of retaliation is being treated for an "aggressive" form of uterine cancer, a close friend told FoxNews.com.


Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17, has undergone two operations and has a third scheduled for Thursday, said Jamal Jivanjee, an ordained pastor who heads an Orlando-based ministry.

"The biopsy did come back malignant," Jivanjee told FoxNews.com. "It's a pretty aggressive form of uterine cancer."

Doctors had initially considered a complete hysterectomy, Jivanjee said, but they are hopeful that the complete removal of Bary's uterus won't be necessary.

"She really wants people to pray for her," he said. "That was why the decision was made to get the news out there."

Jivanjee, who met Bary roughly 18 months ago when they lived in Columbus, Ohio, said the teenager informed him of her health concerns just a few days ago. Bary is now living with a foster family in Columbus after losing a court battle last year to stay in Florida, he said.

"She really likes this foster family," Jivanjee said. "She's being treated very well."

Jivanjee characterized Bary's situation as "very serious" in an e-mail to supporters obtained by FoxNews.com.

"As soon as Rifqa heals from the major surgery that she will undergo this Thursday, it is expected that she will need to undergo several rounds of chemotherapy," the e-mail read. "Although she has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer, the extent of her condition will be known after this Thursday’s surgery."

Jivanjee also noted Bary's looming problem regarding her immigration status. In August, when she turns 18, she faces possible deportation to her native Sri Lanka for being in the United States illegally, he said.

"It's looking as if she's not going to have any legal immigration status," he said. "As soon as she's 18, it's heartbreaking to think that she'll be an illegal immigrant with no health coverage. We're praying that somehow she'll be granted asylum."

John Stemberger, Bary's former attorney, did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Bary fled to Florida on a bus last July after her parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, learned that she was baptized in early 2009 without their knowledge. Weeks later, using cell phone and computer records, police tracked the girl to the home of Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of the Orlando-based Global Revolution Church.

In an emotional six-minute interview with WFTV in Florida, Bary, who met Lorenz through an online Facebook group, said she expected to be killed if she was forced to return to Ohio.

"If I had stayed in Ohio, I wouldn't be alive," Bary said last August. "In 150 generations in family, no one has known Jesus. I am the first -- imagine the honor in killing me."

Investigators in Florida and Ohio found no evidence to support those claims, however, and a Florida judge ordered Bary back to Ohio in October.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:11 AM
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I think there's no doubt she would be murdered. Doesn't matter how much time goes by.

Like Crisco said, honor killings happen all the time in the world of Radical Islam. It happens here in the US with more and more frequency.

Missouri - Palestina "Tina" Isa ~
http://www.danielpipes.org/672/guard...-and-a-fathers

Arizona - Noor Faleh Almaleki ~
http://politifi.com/news/Dad-accused...ty-203101.html

Georgia - Sandeela Kanwal ~
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5322587&page=1

New York - Aasiya Hassan ~
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,493645,00.html

Texas - Amina & Sara Said ~
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...girl-i-am.html

This is just the beginning.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:13 AM
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As liberal as BO is, I'd think she could get status as a political refugee.

But then, perhaps one has to be related.
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