"Jackson's camp has to stop greasing" -Cesar Gracie

Originally Posted by NateR

I'm no expert, but I do know that it's impossible for them to test for everything. And there are likely many substances out there that the Athletic Commissions don't even know exist, much less have a test for.

According to one of GOAT's posts, there are some steroids that could be out of your system within 48 hours.

By that logic NateR everyone is on drugs because the tests are no longer relevant.....and again it becomes a mute point.

Dont get me wrong, I agree in regards to drug testing and its accuracy, but you cant accuse one person without accusing everyone due to the inherent problems associated with drug testing.

Ultimately its a double edged sword which ends up cutting everyone.

Yes, and we also can't be sure that GSP and his "witch doctor" didn't summon the spirits of thousands of deceased Roman Gladiators to aid him in his previous two victories against Hughes.

That's not in the NSAC's rulebooks, BUT IT SHOULD BE!!!

Originally Posted by cds

By that logic NateR everyone is on drugs because the tests are no longer relevant.....and again it becomes a mute point.

Dont get me wrong, I agree in regards to drug testing and its accuracy, but you cant accuse one person without accusing everyone due to the inherent problems associated with drug testing.

Ultimately its a double edged sword which ends up cutting everyone.

No... everyone is guilty except Matt.

found this as the fighter requirments/rules for general fighting events

KICK International Official Amateur MMA Rules and Regulations

FIGHTERS CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT
Fighters are required to wear an approved protective groin cup during all matches.
Fighters are required to wear an approved mouthpiece at all times while the bout is in progress.
Fighters are not allowed to wear any shoes of any type.
Fighters may tape their wrists and hands but not over their knuckles. Wraps are not allowed; only tape and gauze will
be allowed. Handwraps are not allowed. Fighter handwraps must be "SIGNED OFF" by the event representative
PRIOR to the beginning of their bout.
Fighters may not place oil upon any part of the competitor's body.
Fighter’s fingernails and toenails must be cut and trimmed prior to any bout.

there multiple pages of other stuff, but thats the part with oiled up on it

[NateR]

Originally Posted by foggy

No... everyone is guilty except Matt.

You see it's stuff like this that makes the GSP fans seems so pathetic. Nowhere did I ever claim that all MMA fighters, except Matt, are on steroids. That's just stupidity.

So, stop with the straw man arguments and argue what I actually say. Don't manipulate my words to represent a bizarre parody of my viewpoint in order to make it easier for you to shoot that false viewpoint down. That's not the intelligent way to win an argument.

I asked this question on another thread:

Has Fitch or Kos come forward verifying the same thing as other WW's?

Originally Posted by NateR

Nowhere did I ever claim that all MMA fighters, except Matt, are on steroids.That's just stupidity.

your right Nate,,just the ones you dont like.

[NateR]

Originally Posted by bradwright

your right Nate,,just the ones you dont like.

Again, stupidity. I don't like BJ Penn at all, or Matt Serra, but I have never once claimed that they are on steroids.

Originally Posted by NateR

Again, stupidity. I don't like BJ Penn at all, or Matt Serra, but I have never once claimed that they are on steroids.

Serra could use use some HGH though to gain a few inches,lol.

[rockdawg21]

Originally Posted by Champ2be

Serra could use use some HGH though to gain a few inches,lol.

Maybe he just needs Extenze.