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Old 08-20-2009, 09:44 PM
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:56 AM
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Morally wrong and against the rules aren't always the same thing. The way the rule is written, he GSP didn't cheat. They might have MEANT you couldn't have any grease on your body but the rules didn't say that. When it comes down to it, the written rule is all you can go by. Call it a loophole or whatever, he was within the scope of the written rules.
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:07 AM
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Morally wrong and against the rules aren't always the same thing. The way the rule is written, he GSP didn't cheat. They might have MEANT you couldn't have any grease on your body but the rules didn't say that. When it comes down to it, the written rule is all you can go by. Call it a loophole or whatever, he was within the scope of the written rules.
Actually what he did was much worse.

He exploited the law for his own personal gains. He knew very well what it meant, and he deliberately violated it, knowingly using that technicality to save himself.

So in essence, not only has he cheated, which is moral bancruptcy, but he has also premeditadely worked out how he can cheat without repuccusions. That Mike...is worse then just taking steroids and cheating. The only thing worse then that, is deliberatly creating a back-up plan to avoid the consequences.

He's not as dumb as he looks or sounds, He's extremely clever and he's done this sort of thing before, to try and gain an advantage in his career. Think back to having a clear shot at Hughes, and defaulting to BJ Penn because it would be more easy for him to get the title beating Penn, then Hughes, as he had already beaten Penn, and Penn had already beaten Hughes. A well timed injury, et viole (if you pardon the pun)

Its the premeditation that adds the insult to the injury (pardon the second pun too )
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:27 PM
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I have heard several fighters complain that GSP was slick when they fought
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:56 PM
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Actually what he did was much worse.

He exploited the law for his own personal gains. He knew very well what it meant, and he deliberately violated it, knowingly using that technicality to save himself.

So in essence, not only has he cheated, which is moral bancruptcy, but he has also premeditadely worked out how he can cheat without repuccusions. That Mike...is worse then just taking steroids and cheating. The only thing worse then that, is deliberatly creating a back-up plan to avoid the consequences.

He's not as dumb as he looks or sounds, He's extremely clever and he's done this sort of thing before, to try and gain an advantage in his career. Think back to having a clear shot at Hughes, and defaulting to BJ Penn because it would be more easy for him to get the title beating Penn, then Hughes, as he had already beaten Penn, and Penn had already beaten Hughes. A well timed injury, et viole (if you pardon the pun)

Its the premeditation that adds the insult to the injury (pardon the second pun too )
well said
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Actually what he did was much worse.

He exploited the law for his own personal gains. He knew very well what it meant, and he deliberately violated it, knowingly using that technicality to save himself.

So in essence, not only has he cheated, which is moral bancruptcy, but he has also premeditadely worked out how he can cheat without repuccusions. That Mike...is worse then just taking steroids and cheating. The only thing worse then that, is deliberatly creating a back-up plan to avoid the consequences.

He's not as dumb as he looks or sounds, He's extremely clever and he's done this sort of thing before, to try and gain an advantage in his career. Think back to having a clear shot at Hughes, and defaulting to BJ Penn because it would be more easy for him to get the title beating Penn, then Hughes, as he had already beaten Penn, and Penn had already beaten Hughes. A well timed injury, et viole (if you pardon the pun)

Its the premeditation that adds the insult to the injury (pardon the second pun too )

Blah blah blah. Using more words doesn't make you right.

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Old 08-21-2009, 09:17 PM
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Blah blah blah. Using more words doesn't make you right.

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Actually what he did was much worse.

He exploited the law for his own personal gains. He knew very well what it meant, and he deliberately violated it, knowingly using that technicality to save himself.

So in essence, not only has he cheated, which is moral bancruptcy, but he has also premeditadely worked out how he can cheat without repuccusions. That Mike...is worse then just taking steroids and cheating. The only thing worse then that, is deliberatly creating a back-up plan to avoid the consequences.

He's not as dumb as he looks or sounds, He's extremely clever and he's done this sort of thing before, to try and gain an advantage in his career. Think back to having a clear shot at Hughes, and defaulting to BJ Penn because it would be more easy for him to get the title beating Penn, then Hughes, as he had already beaten Penn, and Penn had already beaten Hughes. A well timed injury, et viole (if you pardon the pun)

Its the premeditation that adds the insult to the injury (pardon the second pun too )
Well written Dave but even you must agree your post is complete speculation.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:21 PM
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Well written Dave but even you must agree your post is complete speculation.
Its a theory that fits the facts.

I guess he could be EXTREMELY unlucky/Lucky, and EXTREMELY Dumb...perhaps it was pure cooincidence that he didnt fight Hughes after beating Penn...and perhaps he couldnt understand well enough the rules because they were in English and not French.

But I find it hard to believe he is that lucky and that dumb.

So until there is a better theory...I'll stick to it
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Its a theory that fits the facts.

I guess he could be EXTREMELY unlucky/Lucky, and EXTREMELY Dumb...perhaps it was pure cooincidence that he didnt fight Hughes after beating Penn...and perhaps he couldnt understand well enough the rules because they were in English and not French.

But I find it hard to believe he is that lucky and that dumb.

So until there is a better theory...I'll stick to it
TRANSLATION: So since I don't like GSP I'll ignore the facts and substitute my own conspiracy... I mean reality.
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