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Old 02-05-2009, 10:12 PM
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he never won a popular vote, Dave sadly is a little off on this subject....In the 1932 election for President, Hitler never received over something like 36 or 37 % of the vote in either round of voting, Hindenburg won the election and started his second term, the very next year Hindenburg appointed Hitler to the role of Chancellor, and when Hindenburg died in 1934, Hitler took power
humm I thought he did... I knew it was around only well 25 to 35 % I thought he won because the population was devided up on who they were voteing for between 20 some people
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:13 PM
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absolutely, in 1932 against Hindenburg, hitler received only 30 percent of the vote, but because hindenburg only had 49(not majority), a runoff election ensued in which hitler raised his total percent to 36, but Hindenburg still won, Hindenburg announce Papen as Chancellor, but chaos ensued, Hindenburg later appointed Scleicher(sp?), who 2 months later resigned, thus forcing(under Nazi threats and violence) to appoint Adolf Hitler as Chancellor in 1933.....If you would like a source, it is "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", great book, long, but if you are in any way interested in the Nazi Reich, it is absolutely great, I read it back in high school around sophomore year, but I still remember most of it
and I thought I knew a lot about Nazi Germany...I feel like the Americans know more about Europe then I do
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:14 PM
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your welcome . and i call a spade a spade , or a dumbass a dumbass , which ever i feel fits better, you take it from there.
Well that's fine. Hopefully you were looking in the mirror when you said the word "dumbass". Just to make sure you're calling a spade a spade.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:14 PM
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absolutely, in 1932 against Hindenburg, hitler received only 30 percent of the vote, but because hindenburg only had 49(not majority), a runoff election ensued in which hitler raised his total percent to 36, but Hindenburg still won, Hindenburg announce Papen as Chancellor, but chaos ensued, Hindenburg later appointed Scleicher(sp?), who 2 months later resigned, thus forcing(under Nazi threats and violence) to appoint Adolf Hitler as Chancellor in 1933
it sounds about right to me,,
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:16 PM
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are you sure

I have it that they won the ellection in 1933 with 43% but the problem was the Nazi Party and the Germanic Socialists were trying to form a coelition Government, and needed almost an absolute majority to win in that respect.

So he had the Government dissolved, they called a new ellection, and thats when he started to make it impossible, like burning the building where the ellections were supposed to be. THEN Von Hindenburg died and Hitler proclaimed there was no need for an Ellection LOL
sorry Dave, but your a little off, yes the Reichstag did burn, a fire blamed on the commies but thought to have been a setup by the Nazis in order to get the government to follow some of the wants of the nazis....Hitler never WON an election, but his political pressure and violent threats forced his Chancellory appointment, and upon Hindenburg's death, he took advantage and seized control....


On August 2, 1934, Hindenburg died, and the title of president was abolished. Hitler’s title became Fuehrer and Reich Chancellor. Not surprisingly, he used the initial four-year “temporary” grant of emergency powers that had been given to him by the Enabling Act to consolidate his omnipotent control over the entire country.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:16 PM
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Oh, I see. You have to be European to know anything about history? Nicely elitist of you.

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LOL thats what I was thinking I just dint feel like posting anything because (I hope ) dave was jokeing you were right
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:18 PM
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humm I thought he did... I knew it was around only well 25 to 35 % I thought he won because the population was devided up on who they were voteing for between 20 some people
they voted for 4 guys in the intial election and in the runoff only 3, but even though hitler gained more votes, Hindenburg got 53 percent, thus giving him the majority he needed
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:19 PM
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and I thought I knew a lot about Nazi Germany...I feel like the Americans know more about Europe then I do
I'm fascinated by WWII especially The third reich, so I study up


btw, what does being european have anything to do with it, does europe have better access to records on Nazi germany then the United States?
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:19 PM
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Well that's fine. Hopefully you were looking in the mirror when you said the word "dumbass". Just to make sure you're calling a spade a spade.

Honestly im enjoying this. I mean cmon , i dont claim to be really slick with the comebacks but you seriously need some help in that department, " I hope you were looking in the mirro" ? If you start your next post out with " Im Rubber your glue" i give up. It sounds like youve had a rough day on the monkey bars , maybe Scott Farcus shook you down for your milk money who knows ? Did the cute girl behind you put bazooka joe in your hair again ?
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:20 PM
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Nate, I have no problem with friends sticking up for friends. I also have no problem with people disagreeing with me, nor do I have a problem with defending myself on here when I have an opinion or position that leaves me in a minority. No big deal.

I have to question, however, your willingness to let continued personal attacks from other members and even board moderators stand in direct violation of the forum rules. Some of those attacks, while not as pointed as others, are even from you yourself.

I'm willing to stand and argue my points, and when I said I'd leave if that was your position, you clarified it and I was happy with it. Now it would be nice if the bandwagon jumpers could lay off the personal attacks. If you really want this to descend into a flame war, I can deal with that. Just make sure the rules are enforced equally and I'll be happy to engage those who choose to bolster their lack of salient points by namecalling and attacking me.
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