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Old 07-23-2009, 11:32 PM
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You also never hear anybody saying, "It's not fair, Royce Gracie was using his BJJ to his advantage!" Well DUH, of course a fighter is going to use his skills and physical attributes to his advantage!
Actually you do hear that all the time lol.

A lot of people say Royce only won in the early days because people didn't know BJJ.

Well that was sort of the point to the ufc,
to pit one style against another. Royce was no boxer, or striker, it was fair.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:45 AM
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CC is out of his mind! i just remembered he turned down a fight with Cain, and instead, fought Turk. does he think Cain is better than Brock?
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:22 PM
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Actually, Mir came in about 10 pounds less for this fight. I think he thought being fit would make a difference, but it didn't. Mir's already said for his next fight with Brock, he's going to bulk to help deal with the power.
Mirs arms/shoulders looked pretty ripped but he looked about as graceful as a dump truck running a obstacle course. If he really thinks bulking up is going to help him with handling Brocks power, then Mir must not be a smart as people give him credit for.

The best way to not lose the next fight is try to avoid giving his head to Brock so Brock can get him in that Neck Crank/Full nelson thing again and smash it until the fight is stopped.
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:25 PM
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CC is out of his mind! i just remembered he turned down a fight with Cain, and instead, fought Turk. does he think Cain is better than Brock?

I think Crocop knew Cain was tuff, but remember, Crocop was trying to avoid losing his first fight back in the UFC. Now, he has his confidence.
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Old 07-25-2009, 02:18 PM
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He makes a good point and it remains to be seen if someone rangey can pick at Brock a little more and avoid him sitting on top of them.

It will be interesting to see how Randy comes back because he handled Brock real well until granted one big shot ended it. Randy was able to neutralise Brock's wrestling and even got up off the floor so there is someone out there who can test him better. At the moment i just have no idea who!!!!!
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Old 07-25-2009, 04:52 PM
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CC is out of his mind! i just remembered he turned down a fight with Cain, and instead, fought Turk. does he think Cain is better than Brock?
He wasn't comfortable taking Cain on short notice,
he was comfortable taking al turk on short notice.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:58 PM
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Mirs arms/shoulders looked pretty ripped but he looked about as graceful as a dump truck running a obstacle course. If he really thinks bulking up is going to help him with handling Brocks power, then Mir must not be a smart as people give him credit for.

The best way to not lose the next fight is try to avoid giving his head to Brock so Brock can get him in that Neck Crank/Full nelson thing again and smash it until the fight is stopped.
Mir isn't very fast. I really noticed that when him and Nog were trying to block each others' soccer kicks on TUF. Bulking up would be fine as long as he worked on his quickness. Brock's gameplan to smother him until he found an opening worked very well and I see it working well again. Mir can't stop Brock's takedowns, so he'd have to find a way out of that...good luck.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:00 PM
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He makes a good point and it remains to be seen if someone rangey can pick at Brock a little more and avoid him sitting on top of them.

It will be interesting to see how Randy comes back because he handled Brock real well until granted one big shot ended it. Randy was able to neutralise Brock's wrestling and even got up off the floor so there is someone out there who can test him better. At the moment i just have no idea who!!!!!
I think Carwin has a great shot of getting a KO on Brock. Brock would be able to put Carwin on his back with ease - if Gonzaga can do it, no doubt Brock could do it. Zag wasn't able to keep Carwin down so it'd be interesting to see if and how long Brock could keep Carwin on his back. Standup, I think Carwin has a big advantage as he seems to pick his punches VERY well.
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:55 AM
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I think Crocop knew Cain was tuff, but remember, Crocop was trying to avoid losing his first fight back in the UFC. Now, he has his confidence.
i'm sure he does. i just find it odd that beating Turk would make him think he's ready for Brock.
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:56 AM
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He wasn't comfortable taking Cain on short notice,
he was comfortable taking al turk on short notice.
exactly.
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