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Old 07-05-2009, 08:27 PM
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Not because he had more skill...but because he had more power.
Since when was that NOT part of fighting?
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:41 PM
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am i reading this right? is Brock being criticized for being more powerful than his opponents?
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:40 PM
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am i reading this right? is Brock being criticized for being more powerful than his opponents?
Im saying that if Brock wins on his feet...it doesnt have to mean he is the better technical striker...it probably only means he hits harder
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:50 PM
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Sounds like people are already trying to make excuses and cheapen Brock's victory(if it happens) No matter what, if he wins its not because he is a good fighter, its because he is more powerful? Is that what i am seeing? Come on people. lol
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Sounds like people are already trying to make excuses and cheapen Brock's victory(if it happens) No matter what, if he wins its not because he is a good fighter, its because he is more powerful? Is that what i am seeing? Come on people. lol
on the feet...yes

if he wins on the ground, by strikes or submission...then...he's a better fighter then I thought

I love a comprimise...dont you
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:47 AM
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i think Brock will keep it standing and if he does drop Mir, he won't jump into his guard to finish. he'll take side control where Mir will have less options, both offensively and defensively.
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on the feet...yes

if he wins on the ground, by strikes or submission...then...he's a better fighter then I thought

I love a comprimise...dont you

Bahahahaha

Stronger=Better

If Brock is able to land a K.O standing with Mir, then thats because he got out classed, not because of some handicap Mir fans think he should be entitled too. This arguement was almost acceptable with Randy but there are no excuses for Frank. He weighs the same, he's around the same height and to hear him say it, he is 10x better then Brock anywhere the fight goes.

Again, if Frank gets knocked out, its because Brock bested him. There will be no excuses.
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on the feet...yes

if he wins on the ground, by strikes or submission...then...he's a better fighter then I thought

I love a comprimise...dont you
Dave, that's a bull:poo: cop-out & you know it. No one complains that Leben KOs people because of power & not technique. No one complains that Carwin KOed Gonzaga because of power & not technique. But suddenly Brock, you you're pre-disposed to dislike because of "fast-tracking", KOs someone and you suddenly all over him for lack of technique. I'm sorry, but no. Whether or not you're as technical as Anderson Silva isn't important: you don't send Heath Herring & Randy Couture rolling/crumpling to the mat if you don't have technique. Yes, he needs a lot of improvement and, yes, his power does make up for short-comings in his striking, but if he KOs Mir, then he out-struck him. Period.
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Dave, that's a bull:poo: cop-out & you know it. No one complains that Leben KOs people because of power & not technique. No one complains that Carwin KOed Gonzaga because of power & not technique. But suddenly Brock, you you're pre-disposed to dislike because of "fast-tracking", KOs someone and you suddenly all over him for lack of technique. I'm sorry, but no. Whether or not you're as technical as Anderson Silva isn't important: you don't send Heath Herring & Randy Couture rolling/crumpling to the mat if you don't have technique. Yes, he needs a lot of improvement and, yes, his power does make up for short-comings in his striking, but if he KOs Mir, then he out-struck him. Period.
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Bahahahaha

Stronger=Better

If Brock is able to land a K.O standing with Mir, then thats because he got out classed, not because of some handicap Mir fans think he should be entitled too. This arguement was almost acceptable with Randy but there are no excuses for Frank. He weighs the same, he's around the same height and to hear him say it, he is 10x better then Brock anywhere the fight goes.

Again, if Frank gets knocked out, its because Brock bested him. There will be no excuses.
I was talking about the Technically Better fighter.

Technical Fighters dont always win. BJ Penn is the best Technical Fighter in the World I reckon...but he doesnt always win. Its a spectrum, the truely Technical Fighters, a technical because they actually dont have the power, power is an asset of your genetic make-up, it can be measured in size, in reach, in the amount of power your able to deliver per blow. Those arent things you can teach someone, they either have them or they dont, it is a genetic advantage. Technical Fighters are generally smaller, they relay on speed, and they relay on manouvres to win...that equals the playing field a little bit

It depends on how you define "better fighter" as to whether or not the outcome proves one fighter better...perhaps one person only wins based on knock out power...a power that person didnt learn...perhaps one only wins on speed...a technicality that is limited by genetics...perhaps it is ones strength that ensures victory...perhaps it is ones heart...perhaps it is ones knowledge...who is to say the winner is the better fighter? All the winner is, is the person who won the contest...perhaps they only won because of a low blow...perhaps they only won because of the other persons mistake...perhaps they only won because of a cruddy ref....winning doesnt prove the winner a better fighter...that has to be examined on an individual basis

You know I'm Right Mr Banner
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