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Old 06-26-2009, 04:39 PM
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1) He missed it for the fight that mattered most

2) Which planet do you come from?? The fact he cheated is a worry to EVERYONE outside of those who are GSP nuthuggers

3) The point is, why not promote Lightweights...incidently, the only reason the two coaches dont fight on the finale card is because the UFC wont get the money they could if they put them on a PPV event.

4) The guy should never have been fighting Randy Couture in the first place...and after what was it just one or two fights he makes the premier??? he shouldnt even be IN the UFC much less holding a belt!

5) When they start promoting the Lightweights like the heavy weights I'll reconsider
1. he still has only missed weight for 1 fight. You act like the guy has missed weight 6 or 7 times. He missed it once and then made weight in his next fight.

2. Not really. A lot of people know he cheated and feel it is a major issue but just as many feel it is no big deal. Its just like the Sherk thing, some people just dont care that he cheated.

3. Dave the last 2 PPV's that BJ has fought on as a LW he was in the main event. He will also be the main event at UFC 101. BJ and the LW's are getting plenty of promotion.

4. Why should he not be in the UFC??? He has proved he has the skills to be there and in the end that is all that counts. He should not have to spend years fighting in other orgs if he is good enough now to be in the UFC.

5. It comes down to what people what to see Dave. They push the LW's a lot but if people wanna see the heavier weight classes they are gonna push them more. I would like to point out that that the only fighter ever to get a shot at holding 2 belts at one time in the UFC was a LW.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:50 PM
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1. he still has only missed weight for 1 fight. You act like the guy has missed weight 6 or 7 times. He missed it once and then made weight in his next fight.

2. Not really. A lot of people know he cheated and feel it is a major issue but just as many feel it is no big deal. Its just like the Sherk thing, some people just dont care that he cheated.

3. Dave the last 2 PPV's that BJ has fought on as a LW he was in the main event. He will also be the main event at UFC 101. BJ and the LW's are getting plenty of promotion.

4. Why should he not be in the UFC??? He has proved he has the skills to be there and in the end that is all that counts. He should not have to spend years fighting in other orgs if he is good enough now to be in the UFC.

5. It comes down to what people what to see Dave. They push the LW's a lot but if people wanna see the heavier weight classes they are gonna push them more. I would like to point out that that the only fighter ever to get a shot at holding 2 belts at one time in the UFC was a LW.
but he did test positive for a diuretic in another fight ... so he was having troubles cutting and cheated to make weight ... for the hughes fight he just didn't care ...
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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I can't believe some of the people on here that are crying because the UFC has done this and using the fighters don't make enough money ... this is capitalism man ... yet some of you are probably the same people crying that obama is supposedly trying to make the US a socialist nation ... this is how business works .. the is nothing dirty about it ... business is to make money and as long as you are doing things within the boundaries of the laws, than you are ok ... stop crying ..
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:25 PM
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Its not saying OMR was banned, just simply saying they're not going to be approved.

Banned implies punishment for something with no hopes of returning soon.

Thats NOT what it says. Read.


And OMR was probally not an offical sponsor for UFC100 because of other sponsoers conflicting interests...?
Nope...as I understand it, its because they wont pay a pointless extravagent fee...therefore it IS punishment for not paying the fee.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:35 PM
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1. he still has only missed weight for 1 fight. You act like the guy has missed weight 6 or 7 times. He missed it once and then made weight in his next fight.

2. Not really. A lot of people know he cheated and feel it is a major issue but just as many feel it is no big deal. Its just like the Sherk thing, some people just dont care that he cheated.

3. Dave the last 2 PPV's that BJ has fought on as a LW he was in the main event. He will also be the main event at UFC 101. BJ and the LW's are getting plenty of promotion.

4. Why should he not be in the UFC??? He has proved he has the skills to be there and in the end that is all that counts. He should not have to spend years fighting in other orgs if he is good enough now to be in the UFC.

5. It comes down to what people what to see Dave. They push the LW's a lot but if people wanna see the heavier weight classes they are gonna push them more. I would like to point out that that the only fighter ever to get a shot at holding 2 belts at one time in the UFC was a LW.
1)As I understand it he made weight other times through the help of substances, I dont approve of that either.

2) Noone that I know feels its "no issue" those that say there is no issue do so because they dont acknowledge that he cheated, OR they believe his attempts to cheat did not alter the fights outcome. Both are beside the point to people who want this sport to be taken seiously

3) But not main event when it actually matters. On a Key Date in UFC History they ignore the prospects of the lighter divisions...I'm sure they promote lightweights when there is nothing better for them to do

4) That is categorically not all that counts. He should work his way up like everyone else. The sad fact is that a large proportion of the undercard is pretty transitory in terms of skills outside of the promotion which are probably dotted around the country in small shows. Thats where Brock Lesnar should be for at least two or maybe three years...not two or three days

5) He doesnt count
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:50 PM
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1)As I understand it he made weight other times through the help of substances, I dont approve of that either.

2) Noone that I know feels its "no issue" those that say there is no issue do so because they dont acknowledge that he cheated, OR they believe his attempts to cheat did not alter the fights outcome. Both are beside the point to people who want this sport to be taken seiously

3) But not main event when it actually matters. On a Key Date in UFC History they ignore the prospects of the lighter divisions...I'm sure they promote lightweights when there is nothing better for them to do

4) That is categorically not all that counts. He should work his way up like everyone else. The sad fact is that a large proportion of the undercard is pretty transitory in terms of skills outside of the promotion which are probably dotted around the country in small shows. Thats where Brock Lesnar should be for at least two or maybe three years...not two or three days

5) He doesnt count

Dave you do realize that "working your way up" Is ment more along the lines of getting your skills where they need to be.

To say that Brock Lesnar doesn't even belong in the UFC is insane. Did he deserve his title shot? No. Did he earn his title? **** yea.

The dude is legit and he is most definately a top 3 HW.

Are you saying Cain has no place in the UFC either? He only has what? 7 fights?

THINK David.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:57 PM
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Dave, don't be ridiculous. Brock Lesnar has already proven that he earned his title. Maybe not earning a shot, but he earned the title by beating the champ, not to mention, that guy was Randy Couture, a legend. The UFC is a business and that was good business by Dana to bring him in and prematurely give him a title shot, especially because Brock Lesnar was the most watched person on PPV last year with 2.2 million buys in 3 fights, and the 2nd-most watched MMA fighter ever in a 1-year span.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:13 PM
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I can't believe some of the people on here that are crying because the UFC has done this and using the fighters don't make enough money ... this is capitalism man ... yet some of you are probably the same people crying that obama is supposedly trying to make the US a socialist nation ... this is how business works .. the is nothing dirty about it ...
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:23 PM
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:52 PM
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Dave you do realize that "working your way up" Is ment more along the lines of getting your skills where they need to be.

To say that Brock Lesnar doesn't even belong in the UFC is insane. Did he deserve his title shot? No. Did he earn his title? **** yea.

The dude is legit and he is most definately a top 3 HW.

Are you saying Cain has no place in the UFC either? He only has what? 7 fights?

THINK David.
No, its about prooving yourself.

Lest we forget that Randy Couture hadnt fought in ages before the match because he was busy fighting the UFC, lest we also forget that size isnt everything in Mixed Martial Arts, Sylvia has discovered that...its only a matter of time before Brock discovers the same thing
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