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Old 06-18-2009, 02:19 AM
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HE pushed Spence to the cage and then he did umm, did umm, ohh yeah just leaned on him. Whats that the evolution of the lay and pray, Uno master of the Lean and Pray.
he controlled him against the cage. got TD's, showing aggression. Fisher was pushed around all fight by the smaller man. Fisher didn't fight like usual because Uno was in his face dictating where the fight went. Uno 2 rounds to 1.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:22 AM
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:55 AM
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he controlled him against the cage. got TD's, showing aggression. Fisher was pushed around all fight by the smaller man. Fisher didn't fight like usual because Uno was in his face dictating where the fight went. Uno 2 rounds to 1.
How many times did Uno get Spence to the ground then do something with it. You know advance position look for subs, strikes, other then that last minute your pretty hard pressed to find anything. Spence spent the whole nite avoiding the take downs, avoiding any damage for the rare times he did get taken down. Uno wasn't even at 18% successful take downs for the whole fight.

Spence was more agressive in the clinch out of the clinch, in avoiding take downs and damage when he was taken down.

Spence 3 rounds to none.
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:58 AM
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How many times did Uno get Spence to the ground then do something with it. You know advance position look for subs, strikes, other then that last minute your pretty hard pressed to find anything. Spence spent the whole nite avoiding the take downs, avoiding any damage for the rare times he did get taken down. Uno wasn't even at 18% successful take downs for the whole fight.

Spence was more agressive in the clinch out of the clinch, in avoiding take downs and damage when he was taken down.

Spence 3 rounds to none.
avoiding taksowns doesnst score u points its like slipping punches... its great that there missing but the other person is winning because he is throwing more and bussier.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:03 PM
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avoiding taksowns doesnst score u points its like slipping punches... its great that there missing but the other person is winning because he is throwing more and bussier.
When you look take downs are scored based on success and attempts, Uno had very very little success and a ton of attempts. On that night Spences constant defense of the take down helped him to a victory, The key being "that night".

MMA and Boxing have very similar scoring issues. One fight they will award the victory to the brawler or the guy who let his hands go, then the next fight they award it to the boxer even though the brawler was throwing more. Both fights could be fought the exact same way, but the scoring wont be.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:34 PM
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When you look take downs are scored based on success and attempts, Uno had very very little success and a ton of attempts. On that night Spences constant defense of the take down helped him to a victory, The key being "that night".

MMA and Boxing have very similar scoring issues. One fight they will award the victory to the brawler or the guy who let his hands go, then the next fight they award it to the boxer even though the brawler was throwing more. Both fights could be fought the exact same way, but the scoring wont be.
the fight could have been scored either way base on judging criteria.... based on the criteria the ufc usually uses caol should of won the fight...which shows how inconsistant the judging really is..
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:25 PM
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the fight could have been scored either way base on judging criteria.... based on the criteria the ufc usually uses caol should of won the fight...which shows how inconsistant the judging really is..
You can look at 1 ppv card and see how inconsistent they really are. 1 fight is won by the guy with a higher punch count, and the next fight is won by the guy with the higher hit% even though he threw about half as many punches.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:36 PM
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avoiding taksowns doesnst score u points its like slipping punches... its great that there missing but the other person is winning because he is throwing more and bussier.
yup
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:41 PM
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they score it by effective striking, which Fisher was better at in the fight. but, they also score it on aggression and Octagon control, which i think Uno had with the clinches and TD attempts.
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Old 06-19-2009, 05:14 AM
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they score it by effective striking, which Fisher was better at in the fight. but, they also score it on aggression and Octagon control, which i think Uno had with the clinches and TD attempts.
So then who won this fight looking at numbers

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