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Old 02-02-2009, 04:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure Herb did tell him that if it happened one more time he would deduct a point.

I agree with Mike in that I don't think it was deliberate on GSP's part; I think he was trying to hit him in the side of the head, but, like Mike said it's hard missing the back when they are moving their heads like that.

I do agree with you, Goat, on the Mir/Lesnar fight. Lesnar WOULD have won that fight if Mazi hadn't stood them up like that and didn't he also deduct a point from Lesnar(?).
nah, he said he would stand them up only.

i'm pretty sure Lesnar was deducted a point.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:18 AM
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I thought Dean handled that well. It didn't alter the course of the fight, and he maintained control of the action. Better than having a ref interject themselves and become the story any day of the week, imo
it's a rule that you can't hit behind the head, so either enforce it or don't have it.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:20 AM
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For the record, UFC doesn't make the rules. It's the athletic comission of whatever state the event is being held in. I agree though, that it would be nice if the refs were more consistent but I'm not big on the "back of the head" rule when the "victim" is constantly moving into those shots.

The back of the head rule should be something like not punching the back of a head while a guy is trying to take you down. When you have the guy in mount and are trying to punch his face, but he's moving back and forth - should not apply.
i agree but i hate when refs are so inconsistent. it's almost as if they're paid off. it's not hard to take a point away for multiple illegal moves. he even warned GSP at least twice for grabbing Penn's shorts, LOL.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:22 AM
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nah, he said he would stand them up only.

i'm pretty sure Lesnar was deducted a point.

Lesnar did have a point taken away.


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Old 02-02-2009, 04:28 AM
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there you go
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:59 AM
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nah, he said he would stand them up only.

i'm pretty sure Lesnar was deducted a point.
I'm allowing that I could be wrong; but I remember Herb bending down after GSP hit Penn several times in a row on the back of the head and, I could swear, he told him if it happened again, he would deduct a point and then stand them up. Like I said, I may not be remembering it accurately; I'd have to see it again to be 100% sure.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:22 AM
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i can agree with that. maybe i did miss him saying he'd take a point? he did say he would stand them up.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:18 AM
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Maybe they have gotten passed all that Lesnar point deduction crap already. Maybe the AC has reviewed all that and passed new instructions down to the refs on how to handle certain situations. I can't wait to see an armchair ref actually in the ring, applying rules without making mistakes on the big stage.

Btw, I disagreed with the point deduction AND the stand up in the Lesnar fight. Until they did an interview with Mazz and he explained that he had yelled warnings out to Brock before the second attack on the back of Mirs head had commenced. He also explained WHY he infracted him, and the reasoning of the way he enforced the rules.
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:04 PM
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I'm allowing that I could be wrong; but I remember Herb bending down after GSP hit Penn several times in a row on the back of the head and, I could swear, he told him if it happened again, he would deduct a point and then stand them up. Like I said, I may not be remembering it accurately; I'd have to see it again to be 100% sure.
Herb said it to GSP multiple times and did nothing.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:23 AM
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Maybe they have gotten passed all that Lesnar point deduction crap already. Maybe the AC has reviewed all that and passed new instructions down to the refs on how to handle certain situations. I can't wait to see an armchair ref actually in the ring, applying rules without making mistakes on the big stage.

Btw, I disagreed with the point deduction AND the stand up in the Lesnar fight. Until they did an interview with Mazz and he explained that he had yelled warnings out to Brock before the second attack on the back of Mirs head had commenced. He also explained WHY he infracted him, and the reasoning of the way he enforced the rules.
yeah, i'd like to see that notice. i'm pretty sure it would be front page news on any MMA site if the rules were to change. fact is, Mazz stood him up, took a point after 1 warning. Dean allowed 3 warnings, did nothing and threatened only to stand them up, no point deduction. has nothing to do with perfect, you either have a set number of warnings or you don't.

Mazz is the worst ref in the UFC....is he still reffing? he ignored Evans beating Griffin's ass by standing behind him, pretending he didn't see what was happening. he could have stopped it there but didn't.

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