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Old 05-14-2009, 02:18 AM
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Did anyone catch E:60 lastnight on ESPN where they did a piece on Dana White? Pat Miletich said something and I've been thinking about it all day....

Heres the vid if you didn't catch it ---- http://www.mmaconvert.com/2009/05/13...-white-videos/


It’s been quite some time since Pat Miletich and Dana White were friends and business associates. If one was to trace the divide between the two back to it’s origin they would find that the split was cemented with Miletich’s decision to become part of the International Fight League that has since gone under.

On last night’s episode of ESPN’s E:60, the founder of Miletich Fighting Systems made his current feelings about the UFC president quite clear.

“He’s done a lot of great things for the sport, without a doubt,” the UFC veteran was quoted as saying. “I just have seen the wreckage around him a lot.

“Dana has never told me anything that ended up being the truth, besides the fact that his intention was to crush other people’s lives and businesses.”

The recent statement made by Miletich shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone familiar with the past court case between the UFC and the IFL.

Below are some excerpts from Pat Miletich’s sworn statement given in the case held during 2006, according to public records.

8. In or around late Januray 2006, I recieved a call from Mr. White. During the conversation, Mr. White stated that he respected me both as a trainer and fighter, but then proceeded to express in a rather irate manner his feelings about the IFL and abruptly stated that “he was going to ****ing crush these [the IFL] guys”. Mr. White further made it clear to me that he was livid about losing Keith Evans to the IFL.

9. During this conversation I expressed to Mr. White my opinion (based on numerous conversations with individuals in the MMA industry) that a lot of people involved in MMA industry didn’t very much care for him or the way Zuffa conducted its business and treated the individuals who fought at UFC events. In response, Mr. White stated that it “wasn’t his ****ing job to be liked”. Mr. White further told me that he had spoken with the Fertittas (who own Zuffa), and they had given their “permission” to go after the IFL.

10. Mr. White further threatened me during the conversation, and implicitly the livelihoods of the fighters I train, stating that “when the dust settles, anyone associated with the IFL would not be associated with the UFC”. I took this for what it was — a threat to me and to my fighters who count on me to represent them and obtain opportunities to for them to fight in the MMA industry. Because of the virtual monopoly that Zuffa has in the MMA industry, Mr. White clearly knew that cutting me and my fighters off from the UFC would have a devastating economic impact.

11. Mr. White further told me during this conversation that he had been on the phone all day calling everyone he dealt with in the MMA industry and told me that, after speaking with all of them, none would be doing business with the IFL. My understanding from his comment was that he had made the same threats to everyone else he knew in the MMA industry that he had just made to me during our conversation. I attempted to tell Mr. White to calm down and tried to be rational with him. I expressed to Mr. White my opinion that the IFL was going to help the MMA industry and ultimately would increase the UFC’s presence throughout the world. I further attempted to dissuade Mr. White from doing anything irrational with respect to the IFL (i.e., the lawsuit) and told him that I felt going after the IFL for no reason would be very bad for the entire MMA industry. Clearly, Mr. White could care less what I thought.

12. Following my conversation with Mr. White, Ken Shamrock, another world-renowned MMA fighter, called me and told me that Mr. White had just “raised hell” with him about his being associated with the IFL. As I understand it, Mr. White had made similar threats to Mr. Shamrock whom I believe at the time had an agreement with the IFL to coach one of its teams. I further understand that Mr. White made the same or similar threats to Randy Couture, perhaps one of the most legendary MMA fighters in the world and a former UFC World Champion. I further understand that Mr. White called a current UFC World Champion, Matt Hughes, to inquire of him whether he had any involvement in the IFL.

13. Knowing Mr. White the way I do, I can honestly say that Zuffa’s intent is bringing this litigation has nothing to do with protecting any confidential information. Rather, I believe this litigation is about one thing and one thing only — stamping out legitimate and, indeed, healthy, competition.


http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/...ing-the-truth/
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Old 05-14-2009, 02:32 AM
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Dana sounds reasonable to me.
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:02 AM
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:13 AM
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Thats Capitalism at its most powerfullest!

Its a dog eat dog world and the UFC has got the biggest teeth
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:46 PM
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I think Dana, does go a little OTT at times. UFC needs smaller shows to raid for talent! Its also useful for fighters that get cut to prove themselves again. UFC will always be the pinnacle.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:40 PM
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If you have a problem with this, you most likely have a problem with Wal-Mart too. Big deal.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:42 PM
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I have no problem with Dana but I do actually have a problem with Wal-mart haha.

Also I think it was a dick move of Dana to threaten the fighters and their camps.
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:34 PM
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It isnt right but i am not shocked or surprised at all that Dana would threaten Mileitich for going to IFL.

If anything its a complimennt of him fearing them.

Its unfair but his saying go ahead if you want but know the UFC won't support you, you cut ties by doing it.

Harsh but its reality.
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Old 05-14-2009, 05:19 PM
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It isnt right but i am not shocked or surprised at all that Dana would threaten Mileitich for going to IFL.

If anything its a complimennt of him fearing them.

Its unfair but his saying go ahead if you want but know the UFC won't support you, you cut ties by doing it.

Harsh but its reality.
Young Dana might have but new Dana now has the experience he fears none. Old Dana would have tried to smash strikeforce.
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:33 PM
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let us remember a few things.

*Dana White actually isnt the top of the Food chain. He's the public face of the UFC, but he isnt at the top. The term "President" is a bit missleading in this case, He wasnt voted in by a board of directors, he was appointed by two joint owners. How much of the success is White, and how much must also be accredited to the Fetitas?

*Dana White doesnt work alone. He might invent and lay down policies, but he isnt the one doing the hard graft. They talk about promotion, but there will be a whole department of people who work on promotion. There will be another whole department who works on Event Management. There is no way with a company the size of the UFC that Dana White coordinates everything personally. There will be key people he relies on...quite often it will be THEIR stirling work that has actually brought the UFC to where it is today

*There is EVERY need for any tip off to be made annonomous. Dana White is known to react very badly to criticism. He really will take vengance against someone who bad mouths him. The sensible option is to remain anonomous.

*After saying that you only sort problems out using your own nogging rather then go to the police, what happens the first time the Mob go after White. He flees....and yet now he has taken on part of that role in quashing others either employed by the company, or in competition with it.

* White was probably good for the sport in its original growth. But the time is come most definatetly to put a new and, yes, more conservative person in his place. The problem is that until the UFC starts to be perceived as being like a regular sport, it is not going to get that recognition. Now that TUF is drying up, but the PPV rates are holding, it needs someone who can break the barrier into the mainstream...so that Mixed Martial Arts is recongised as a sport NOT JUST as a sporting Craze...which is what you have at the moment.

* White is a politician, and a businessman. So dont expect him to tell the truth, and dont expect him to treat you fairly. You are a commodity for him to use to make himself look better. That is the basis of it. People who worked very closely with him admit he's a compulsive liar and "very vindictive"

*100million dollars is the price of Dana White? I'm suprised someone hasnt tried to kidnap him and ask for a ransom. I suppose, thats not much money compared to most people in his position. I bet the Fetitas (just one) would be worth tenfold that ammount. Anybody know...does White actually have a personal security detachment?? It wouldnt suprise me...many Business executives do. I met one of the most expensive earlier this week...he had a team of EIGHT

* UFC gyms?? I'm suprised he hasnt utilized that already. Of course the only problem is, he's literally just selling a brand name, he's not actually selling anything of worth. I mean, if you for example enter the chain of an MMA fighter whose well established, you should be able to find some kinda presence of that original. In some way, its not just a "name" its a "something" that is named.

Now the UFC arent going to automatically accept people who train in a "UFC Gym" into their promotion...so they are doing nothing but sticking their name over the door. I dont think that will catch on, unless they are all geographically located around the same area.

* "An unacceptable person" See now what you need is for the Sport to be respected by people who are very conservative. You actually need to appease society if you want to get its support. I think its good for White to fight to try and get MMA legalized...but I dont think he is the person to do it. I think he's a bad candidate to approach a bunch of suits, and to be consevative. Thats where he fails, and thats the next stretch of growth for the UFC. It wont happen until we get someone else to lead. The danger is he might actually make enemies at that level, permanent enemies that will missinterpret the sport as actually being HIM. The UFC IS NOT a Sport, it is a promotion of the sport. But perception becomes reality, and the last thing we want is for the future to be tarnished permanently because of one man in the present.

*So the Sport is ready for prime time and mainstream, the UFC is ready for prime time and mainstream. But Dana White will have to go before those things can be achieved. Harsh...but true.
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