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Old 05-08-2009, 04:12 PM
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Acting like a Christian in a muslim land while we blow up their homes will not win us any support.

THEY HATE CHRISTIANITY.

There is no winning over the terrorists. The best we can hope for is to stop the people from supporting them and eventually we may be able to whipe them out.

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Our support of Israel and the fact that we do not follow the Sharia law will forever burden us with war.

Nothing good will come out of that region and there will be war until the end times.
Sad, but true.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:19 PM
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I also think that if a Christian where President that never would have happened regardless of military procedure.
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Old 05-08-2009, 05:47 PM
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Acting like a Christian in a muslim land while we blow up their homes will not win us any support.

THEY HATE CHRISTIANITY.

There is no winning over the terrorists. The best we can hope for is to stop the people from supporting them and eventually we may be able to whipe them out.

However

Our support of Israel and the fact that we do not follow the Sharia law will forever burden us with war.

Nothing good will come out of that region and there will be war until the end times.
Then we need to ask ourselves if we either stop blowing up their homes...or we go the whole hog...That is to say ideological warfare...where we're not winning hearts and minds in some western expansion...but causing a christian uprising that will challenge the Islamists in their own land.

Its not true that all muslims hate Christians...and besides, we're not talking about endearing ourselves to an islamic population. We're talking about converting them all to Christians
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Then we need to ask ourselves if we either stop blowing up their homes...or we go the whole hog...That is to say ideological warfare...where we're not winning hearts and minds in some western expansion...but causing a christian uprising that will challenge the Islamists in their own land.

Its not true that all muslims hate Christians...and besides, we're not talking about endearing ourselves to an islamic population. We're talking about converting them all to Christians
The muslims are too evil. Anyone that tries to convert is immediately killed.


I've said take Israel leash off and let it whipe out the region. God let them do it before he should let them do it again.
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The muslims are too evil. Anyone that tries to convert is immediately killed.


I've said take Israel leash off and let it whipe out the region. God let them do it before he should let them do it again.
But Crisco, once they are converted, they are with us, and have our protection. If the ball rolls in large enough numbers then they may not even need to hide.

We're not talking about converting them and letting them go home to families to be murdered
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But Crisco, once they are converted, they are with us, and have our protection. If the ball rolls in large enough numbers then they may not even need to hide.

We're not talking about converting them and letting them go home to families to be murdered
The only way to you see results is to move them from the region. The peaceful ones and try there. Leaving them in that bed of vipers will do them no good.

That is why I support Obama using the relief fund to move those people. Now they actually have a chance.
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The only way to you see results is to move them from the region. The peaceful ones and try there. Leaving them in that bed of vipers will do them no good.

That is why I support Obama using the relief fund to move those people. Now they actually have a chance.
No Crisco. This is battle. Those people coming to the US will be islamic, because they are palestinian. I'm talking about converting a villiage, and then the next villiage, and then the next. Having the military move from the epicentre in a circle outwards, thus protecting the ones inside...eventually they will reach the boarder and the whole country will be Christian

Its about time the Christians displaced some faith, rather then always getting displaced themselves. Its about time the Terrorists were forced to leave and be refugees.

by the time you leave, there will be no bed of vipers...
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No Crisco. This is battle. Those people coming to the US will be islamic, because they are palestinian. I'm talking about converting a villiage, and then the next villiage, and then the next. Having the military move from the epicentre in a circle outwards, thus protecting the ones inside...eventually they will reach the boarder and the whole country will be Christian

Its about time the Christians displaced some faith, rather then always getting displaced themselves. Its about time the Terrorists were forced to leave and be refugees.

by the time you leave, there will be no bed of vipers...
Only the hand of God would be able to do that Dave.

That is an impossible task without divine intervention.

Christians will not dominate that region until Jesus comes home.
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No Crisco. This is battle. Those people coming to the US will be islamic, because they are palestinian. I'm talking about converting a villiage, and then the next villiage, and then the next. Having the military move from the epicentre in a circle outwards, thus protecting the ones inside...eventually they will reach the boarder and the whole country will be Christian

Its about time the Christians displaced some faith, rather then always getting displaced themselves. Its about time the Terrorists were forced to leave and be refugees.

by the time you leave, there will be no bed of vipers...
Not all Palestinians are Islamic. Believe it or not that region houses a lot of Christians its just sad that they cannot be free to acknowledge they believe in Christ without being killed.
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Only the hand of God would be able to do that Dave.

That is an impossible task with divine intervention.

Christians will not dominate that region until Jesus comes home.
Impossible in Israel and Palastine, yes...but possible in Iraq and Afghanistan...and of course it would take divine intervention...specifically something known as Rivival...you get a Rivival and you wont need to go an spread the news...the converts will come visit you.

Rivivals are rare...mostly you have renewals...which is when GOD blesses a specific outreach ministry. Rivivals are something different.

One of the Greatest recorded rivials was in scotland. One Day GOD just chose to descend on several Island communities off the coast of Scotland.

It began with a Group of Presbyterian Churches who were annoyed at the way the Christians were lax on their worship and churchly committment. So angry were the Priests that they put together a statement to be read out in all the Churches on the Islands, that people were to take to heart what had gone wrong in the Christian Community, and how it now reflected no more then the secular community

Various members of the Congregations were so inspired, they decided to assemble twice weekly for nightly prayers about the situation...but they didnt pray in church. No, they prayed in two places at opposite points on the Island, as per the idea of a woman in the congregation who had seen a vision of the Churches on the Islands so packed the congregations could not be seated.

What did they pray?

"For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring" That was all that they prayed, ceaslessly for several months for a period of 5 odd hours each time...at the end of one of the meetings, a young deacon felt troubled and moved...he was upset because whilst they were praying for GOD to move in the world around them, he was aware that, they, themselves were hardly GODly


He quoted Psalm 24

"Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? Or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation"

The next night, GOD moved across the Island.

There are records of young people out at a dance party, leaving the club for the Church, so extreme was their fear of The Lord. People were jolted from their sleep and rushed to the Church to beg for salvation....by the early hours of the morning Other Churches were reporting the same phenomina, I'm talking more then 600 people arriving at the Churches every 5 moments

...and those it hit worst...were the most vile and nasty youths, who were reduced from their nightly habits of theaft, drug taking, and rape, to screaming on the floor for forgivness in nearby farm yards

This was not within the power of the Church...this was an act of GOD....a spontaneous act of GOD after a group of Churches united for several months and prayed 10 hours every week specifically for it to happen... Ye have not, because ye ask not.

Pray ceaselessly...thats why Rivival doesnt happen more often...its not properly asked of GOD...people cant be arsed to pray to him for long enough, constantly, it actually doesnt mean that much to them...so He doesnt do it.

Of course that rivival had a knock on effect when it was broadcast around the country that something had happened. The year was 1949.

Dont you think we are overdue in asking for another one

People became believers without seeing a church. Without being approached. People who were sworne athiests one second, were Christians the next. The Spirit of GOD suddenly became apparent to them, and it was a terrifying experience, in which noone on these islands escaped. GOD, personally, moved amoungst the whole island...people in the middle of farm yard feilds were found wailing on the ground, people in the streets were crawling on the roads and clinging to the lamp-posts. They all VERY quickly became Christian
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