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Old 05-01-2009, 11:19 PM
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even if mia gets the fight down nate is world class there too...

im taking nate
LOL.....the difference between their ground games is much larger than their striking games.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:22 PM
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LOL.....the difference between their ground games is much larger than their striking games.
leites didnt come close to sniffing a sub versus nate ...... Go look at thales grappling creds compared to nates.... This is mma
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:38 PM
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leites didnt come close to sniffing a sub versus nate ...... Go look at thales grappling creds compared to nates.... This is mma
and??? who won LOL? Nate isn't world class in BJJ and if this fight gets to the ground, he will lose. Leites isn't even as good as Nate in striking and still won.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:48 PM
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even if mia gets the fight down nate is world class there too...

im taking nate
World class? lol

No.... no Nate is not world class on the ground.

One of the most over used terms in this sport is world class.
To me, world class means you can compete, and win at a world level.
Maia, has several world titles in BJJ and has proven he brings it to MMA as well.

What has Nate done to prove he is a world class ground guy?
(and don't say Choke Horn)
All his "impressive" sub wins are over sub par japanese guys.
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Old 05-02-2009, 12:14 AM
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leites didnt come close to sniffing a sub versus nate ...... Go look at thales grappling creds compared to nates.... This is mma
what goat said, also the difference between leites and Maia on the ground is large...I mean as Rogan says, there are black belts and then there are BLACKKKKKKKK belts
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Old 05-02-2009, 12:47 AM
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World class? lol

No.... no Nate is not world class on the ground.

One of the most over used terms in this sport is world class.
To me, world class means you can compete, and win at a world level.
Maia, has several world titles in BJJ and has proven he brings it to MMA as well.

What has Nate done to prove he is a world class ground guy?
(and don't say Choke Horn)
All his "impressive" sub wins are over sub par japanese guys.
+ juan
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:47 AM
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what goat said, also the difference between leites and Maia on the ground is large...I mean as Rogan says, there are black belts and then there are BLACKKKKKKKK belts
the gap between leites and anyone on the ground isnt large. Dude is one of the most accomplished bjj guys in mma. were not talking about travis lutter here.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:47 AM
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and??? who won LOL? Nate isn't world class in BJJ and if this fight gets to the ground, he will lose. Leites isn't even as good as Nate in striking and still won.
yeah nate lost because he got dominated on the ground by leites lol

Jason macdonald lasted 2 and a half rounds with mia without being subbed is he even a black belt
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:02 AM
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yeah nate lost because he got dominated on the ground by leites lol

Jason macdonald lasted 2 and a half rounds with mia without being subbed is he even a black belt
Yeah, thats about all he did was last lol
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:35 AM
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the gap between leites and anyone on the ground isnt large. Dude is one of the most accomplished bjj guys in mma. were not talking about travis lutter here.
most of leites submission wins are against weaker competition...If you asked all of the MW in the UFC who they would be more scared to go to the ground with, Maia would pull the vote unanimously
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