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View Poll Results: Should the Lone Star state secede from the U.S.?
Texas should secede from the U.S. 9 37.50%
Texas should not secede from the U.S. 13 54.17%
Don't know... 2 8.33%
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:37 PM
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I am sorry, I just don't see it being that drastic, and honestly to me the thought of succession by any state is not only lunacy, but completely unpatriotic.
Or, perhaps just a little idea...since America is y'know, no LONGER UNITED an stuff.

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As a conservative, I think it's counter-productive to suggest wild and crazy ideas as a way of making a political statement. All it does is give fuel to the liberals to make us look silly to the common Joes who don't follow politics.
Who cares eh?

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MOST people in this country are conservative, and if this nation was in actual danger of becoming a true communist society, then Texas leaving the union would be the least of our problems. Our nation would have a full blown revolution.
Yea, by then they will be too brainwashed tho...get real man. People, well, they believe what they are told e.g, Barak Hussein Obama is actually the flippin president.

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Let Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reed sink their own ship with the American people, because you know they will. Then, the pendulum will swing back the other way, just like it always does.
Hope you're right mate, because 4 years is a looooooonnnnnggg time and B.O. and his rogues gallery are aimin' to deliver their own brand of social order and law to this nation.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:40 PM
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Yes, us non-socialists bastards are against free healthcare...take a look around mate, we all have FREE healthcare. No one can turn down an adult here, much less a child. If you think socialism is good, then you must be smoking crack.
I didn't say socialism was good, but there are good socialist programs.

well, WE don't all have free healthcare, I don't know where you live
Sure you can go to the ER, but it will costs you thousands,
kiss your credit goodbye when you can't pay 2K for a visit.

"free" lol
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:41 PM
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I didn't say socialism was good, but there are good socialist programs.

well, WE don't all have free healthcare, I don't know where you live
Sure you can go to the ER, but it will costs you thousands,
kiss your credit goodbye when you can't pay 2K for a visit.

"free" lol
I meant free access to healthcare

what are these good socialist programs?
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:47 PM
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I meant free access to healthcare

what are these good socialist programs?
Define free access to health care?

Universal Healthcare is a good program.
Socialism, by way of contrast, means eliminating the entire system of production for profit.

The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system.
We, as the United States, should give good, quality health care, at no additional cost to one another.
Taxes should pay for this.
Other countries do it, and it works everywhere, why can't we?

I do not see how a human being with any decent heart or brain can say you want a fellow citizen to go without being able to see a Dr?
That's sick to me.

We cannot solve all the problems in the world,
but I think tackling health care is very possible, and should be done.
A good socialist program, is universal healthcare.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:52 PM
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Who cares? No longer united?

Vizion, you are being way to extreme, and I don't think you have a firm grasp on American politics. Obama will have his way to some degree, and it will effect our nation, but it's a bit premature to start going off the deep end like everybody is brainwashed and it's the end of America.

My prediction is he will either mess up big time and get voted out after 4 years, or he will make it for two terms and start governing more to the center.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:26 AM
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Who cares? No longer united?

Vizion, you are being way to extreme, and I don't think you have a firm grasp on American politics. Obama will have his way to some degree, and it will effect our nation, but it's a bit premature to start going off the deep end like everybody is brainwashed and it's the end of America.

My prediction is he will either mess up big time and get voted out after 4 years, or he will make it for two terms and start governing more to the center.
Nice try...I may not be born and raised here, but I think I'm pretty astute with American politics. So, we ARE united huh? This, deeply divided country IS united you claim. And, BO will do damage severe enough to cripple us I bet too...just wait and see....like I said JB I hope you're right.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:31 AM
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Define free access to health care?

Universal Healthcare is a good program.
Socialism, by way of contrast, means eliminating the entire system of production for profit.

The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system.
We, as the United States, should give good, quality health care, at no additional cost to one another.
Taxes should pay for this.
Other countries do it, and it works everywhere, why can't we?
You are kidding right? Universal healthcare is a terrible idea...our taxes will go through the roof, the quality of medical services will be severely diminished and the lack of competition will lead to no new medical discoveries. Look, doctors, they're by and large pretty smart, most of us aren't able to do what they do...what is their incentive to go to school for 10 years to be doctors, or to specialize in a certain area if they are making peanuts.

Every year hundreds of thousands of people from Europe and Canada come to the U.S. because of their weaker health care systems. But by all means, let's have a vote, this is a democracy yes?
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:32 AM
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You are kidding right? Universal healthcare is a terrible idea...our taxes will go through the roof, the quality of medical services will be severely diminished and the lack of competition will lead to no new medical discoveries. Look, doctors, they're by and large pretty smart, most of us aren't able to do what they do...what is their incentive to go to school for 10 years to be doctors, or to specialize in a certain area if they are making peanuts.

Every year hundreds of thousands of people from Europe and Canada come to the U.S. because of their weaker health care systems. But by all means, let's have a vote, this is a democracy yes?
Im with you on this topic! Universal Healthcare would be a huge disaster for our country.. HUGE!!
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:41 AM
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which is one of the underlying reasons why this thread was started in the first place.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:43 AM
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Has a MEXICAN pissed you off lately? All your posts are totally tripping me out lately..
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