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Old 01-28-2009, 06:30 PM
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Or we could just blame it on the liberal media. They destroyed President Bush's character and got simple minded-fools to believe that he was a bad President, and they got Obama elected, even though he's not qualified for the job he holds now.
The beauty of this country is that you can criticize him, and those who voted for him as much as you like. I hope you'll recognize his successes in office as well, and pray for him to make the right decisions. Orrr you can stoop to the level of those you admonish. That's your choice (as you know).
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:35 PM
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The beauty of this country is that you can criticize him, and those who voted for him as much as you like. I hope you'll recognize his successes in office as well, and pray for him to make the right decisions. Orrr you can stoop to the level of those you admonish. That's your choice (as you know).
No stooping here, just stating the facts. The guy was unqualified for office and had no record of doing anything memorable during his time in the Senate, aside from running for President.

You can't argue that, just like you can't argue that Bush and Cheney have kept this country safe from terrorism for 7 years and eliminated three brutal dictators from Iraq.
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Old 01-28-2009, 06:46 PM
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No stooping here, just stating the facts. The guy was unqualified for office and had no record of doing anything memorable during his time in the Senate, aside from running for President.

You can't argue that, just like you can't argue that Bush and Cheney have kept this country safe from terrorism for 7 years and eliminated three brutal dictators from Iraq.

so it is too early to praise obama for doing anything good, but a guy who kills his family is fair-game to blame on him? both sides had stated that the economy was in trouble so it is not like he was saying dire straits and mccain was saying everything is fine ... and why take BHO's word for it? look how the world's economy is crumbling, even if BHO said nothing, the proof is in the pudding ...

oh ya, iraq, what about the rest of the countries that pose a threat?
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:00 PM
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No stooping here, just stating the facts. The guy was unqualified for office and had no record of doing anything memorable during his time in the Senate, aside from running for President.

You can't argue that, just like you can't argue that Bush and Cheney have kept this country safe from terrorism for 7 years and eliminated three brutal dictators from Iraq.
Yeah congrats to them on 7 years of no terrorists attacking U.S. citizens.


Oh, wait there is the matter of all those U.S. citizens being killed by terrorists in Iraq and Afganistan. To their families here at home it's not different than had they been killed by terrorists down the street.

How long have those brutal dictators been dead? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we aren't better off without those 3. I think that if we would have focused on Osama, then we could have eliminated him before moving into Iraq. IMO

Nate, I respect your opinions (whether you like it or not), I just don't agree completely with you. Unfortunately I'm not very organized in putting my argument together.0
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:27 PM
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so it is too early to praise obama for doing anything good, but a guy who kills his family is fair-game to blame on him?
So exactly what good has Obama done? I watch the news everyday and I'm still seeing nothing but a lot of talk and promises. Promises are easy to make, but keeping them is a totally different matter. I understand these things take time and I'm not trying to be critical, but I'm just sick of people talking about Obama like he pisses rays of golden sunshine.

It's still yet to be determined whether President Obama is an idealogue or a pragmatist. For sake of the United States, I hope he is a pragmatist; but if he's just an ideologue, then he's not going to do any good for anybody.
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It's still yet to be determined whether President Obama is an idealogue or a pragmatist. For sake of the United States, I hope he is a pragmatist; but if he's just an ideologue, then he's not going to do any good for anybody.
Of course he is...environmentalists, liberal media, socialists, and other forms of hippies.
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:59 PM
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A part of me wants to blame this on President Obama's economic fear-mongering. Telling everyone that we're in dire straits, we're entering another Great Depression, and it's only going to get worse from here. What happened to all that optimism before the election?

So, now all these spoiled brats who have never had to do without anything their whole life are panicking at the first sign of suffering and taking the coward's way out.
Part of me wonders why this happens in America, when I've yet to hear of any major businesses going bankrupt. Like Obama has done anything in the past week that could possibly be the cause of all this

Look at whats happened in England, in the past three months Woolworths has fallen, Zavvy has fallen, Barrats has fallen, Mothercare has fallen, Marks and Sparks have laid people off....there are somewhere in the region of 50K unemployed in those businesses alone...how many of them have killed their family and themselves because of it?


It may not be a "Great Depression" for YOU
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Or we could just blame it on the liberal media. They destroyed President Bush's character and got simple minded-fools to believe that he was a bad President, and they got Obama elected, even though he's not qualified for the job he holds now.
Or we could blame it on the fact that Republicans arent working hard enough to put there story across...if all the news is "liberal" and "lies" Where are the Republican outlets???

He IS qualified, because the public voted him there...thats called Democracy
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So exactly what good has Obama done? I watch the news everyday and I'm still seeing nothing but a lot of talk and promises. Promises are easy to make, but keeping them is a totally different matter. I understand these things take time and I'm not trying to be critical, but I'm just sick of people talking about Obama like he pisses rays of golden sunshine.

It's still yet to be determined whether President Obama is an idealogue or a pragmatist. For sake of the United States, I hope he is a pragmatist; but if he's just an ideologue, then he's not going to do any good for anybody.
Yeah...but I'm sick of you NOT giving him a chance. You want to blame him for some suicidal nutjob that offed his family coz he lost his job, on the fact Obama has made a few speeches saying that its hard times???????

I'll tell you what he's done in his first week. He's closing down Guantanamo, in accordance with both International Law and the Law of The United States...he's also appointed new Envoys to the Middle-east, and he's opened DIRECT talks with Iran....and He's frozen the pay of the Congress ministers until he can irradicate sleaze, and to bring them inline with the rest of the workers in this world.

Sounds like he's done good so far.
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Yea If anything I just hope he cuts the pork off.
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