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By REBECCA CATHCART and RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD
Published: January 27, 2009

LOS ANGELES — A man shot and killed his wife and five young children before taking his own life Tuesday, apparently out of despair after the couple lost their jobs at a hospital, the police and city officials said.

Officers responding to 911 calls placed by the man, Ervin A. Lupoe, and by a television station to which Mr. Lupoe had sent a fax around 8:30 a.m., found seven bodies in a house in Wilmington, a working-class neighborhood near the Port of Los Angeles.

A police spokesman said the bodies were identified as Mr. Lupoe; his wife, Ana; their 8-year-old daughter and two sets of twins (5-year-old girls and 2-year-old boys).

Mr. Lupoe had telephoned and sent a fax to KABC-TV that indicated “he was despondent over a job situation and he saw no reasonable way out,” said Lt. John Romero, a police spokesman.

The two-page, typewritten letter made clear he was going to kill his family and himself. The station quickly called 911 to report the letter and then posted it on the station Web site after the bodies were discovered.

The letter said Mr. Lupoe and his wife had worked as medical technicians at a Kaiser Permanente hospital in West Los Angeles, but recently lost their jobs after a dispute with an administrator.

The administrator, it said, had asked them on an unspecified day why they had come to work, and then added, “You should have blown your brains out.”

Two days after the confrontation, the letter said, the Lupoes lost their jobs and began planning their deaths and those of their children.

“Why leave the children to a stranger?” Mr. Lupoe said his wife had asked. “So, here we are,” he wrote.

Kaiser Permanente officials issued a statement confirming the couple had worked at their hospital in West Los Angeles but would not say when they had lost their jobs or provide other details. “We are deeply saddened to hear of the deaths of the Lupoe family,” the statement said.

Although the police are treating the case as a murder-suicide, Deputy Chief Kenneth Garner said the police were still sorting through a discrepancy.

Contrary to his fax and reported call to the television station, the man told a 911 operator he had arrived home and found his family dead, Deputy Chief Garner said. But investigators found a revolver next to Mr. Lupoe’s body, the only weapon in the home, he said.

The police said they found the bodies of the three daughters next to their father in a front bedroom upstairs. The boys were with their mother in a back bedroom on the same floor.

“A man who recently lost his job allowed the despair to put him over the edge,” said Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who held a news conference outside the house. “Unfortunately, this has been an all-too-common story in the last few months. But that does not and should not lead people to resort to desperate measures.”

A man killed his ex-wife, her parents and friends at a Christmas party in West Covina last month after losing his job. In October, a 45-year-old father of three shot and killed his wife and children in their Porter Ranch home after describing financial stress in a suicide note.

Mayor Villaraigosa urged Los Angeles residents experiencing financial stress to talk to friends and neighbors and seek counseling “to get back on their feet and keep their families afloat.”

Cecilia Yvar, 68, whose grandson often played with the Lupoes’ 5-year-old twins, said the family moved to the neighborhood four years ago. The Lupoes added a second story to their home last year, Ms. Yvar said, and landscapingto their backyard.

“Maybe too much money, too much stress,” she said while wiping away tears.

Ms. Yvar said the couple kept to themselves, but greeted their neighbors warmly each day. On Sunday, she said, they appeared unhappy as they walked together outside.

Yolanda and Oscar Lopez, who have lived in the area three months, said they had seen the Lupoes in the neighborhood.

“There’s so much pressure from the economy and people out of work and stuff,” Mr. Lopez, 28, said. “But adults, they know there are other options. You don’t have to do this.”

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Old 01-28-2009, 04:18 AM
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Wow, what a rotten outlook on life.
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Saw this on the news thsi morning. I cannopt imagine being at a place where that is the only forseeable way out. Why not leave the kids who had full lives ahead of them. Devastating...
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A part of me wants to blame this on President Obama's economic fear-mongering. Telling everyone that we're in dire straits, we're entering another Great Depression, and it's only going to get worse from here. What happened to all that optimism before the election?

So, now all these spoiled brats who have never had to do without anything their whole life are panicking at the first sign of suffering and taking the coward's way out.
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A part of me wants to blame this on President Obama's economic fear-mongering. Telling everyone that we're in dire straits, we're entering another Great Depression, and it's only going to get worse from here. What happened to all that optimism before the election?

So, now all these spoiled brats who have never had to do without anything their whole life are panicking at the first sign of suffering and taking the coward's way out.
I don't think it's "fear mongering" I think it's saying "listen, we're going to get through this but it's going to take some time and work". We have to be realistic about the state of the economy. If these wackos can't handle that then they should blow eachother's brains out and let the kids grow up in a household of rational people and have a future.

Of course this is just the same thing you accused Liberal of doing to the Bush administration, so I guess it's fair.
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Of course this is just the same thing you accused Liberal of doing to the Bush administration, so I guess it's fair.
Exactly, when Bush talked about the realities of terrorism in the world, he was accused of fear-mongering. When Obama talks about the "realities" of our economic situation, he's being "transparent" with the American people. That's a blatant double-standard. Especially since Obama and Biden are deliberately overstating the problem. This is not the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, it's the worst economic crisis since Jimmy Carter.

If anything President Bush understated just how dangerous the world's terrorists are and trying to protect the American people from the brutal realities of Muslim Extremism might have hurt his case more than helped it.
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Exactly, when Bush talked about the realities of terrorism in the world, he was accused of fear-mongering. When Obama talks about the "realities" of our economic situation, he's being "transparent" with the American people. That's a blatant double-standard. Especially since Obama and Biden are deliberately overstating the problem. This is not the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, it's the worst economic crisis since Jimmy Carter.

If anything President Bush understated just how dangerous the world's terrorists are and trying to protect the American people from the brutal realities of Muslim Extremism might have hurt his case more than helped it.
Good points.
We know that mistakes will always be made by our leaders.
I wouldn't blame these wacko parents' decision making abilities on a man who's only been in office for a week. Let's blame whoever's administration they were raised under;)
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Good points.
We know that mistakes will always be made by our leaders.
I wouldn't blame these wacko parents' decision making abilities on a man who's only been in office for a week. Let's blame whoever's administration they were raised under;)
Or we could just blame it on the liberal media. They destroyed President Bush's character and got simple minded-fools to believe that he was a bad President, and they got Obama elected, even though he's not qualified for the job he holds now.
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