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Old 04-26-2009, 02:42 AM
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i haven't seen any UFC refs take points for slacking. in Pride they did.
Still, it is in the rules. So they could and should enforce it.
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Old 04-26-2009, 02:55 AM
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Still, it is in the rules. So they could and should enforce it.
they should without question but they won't.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:38 AM
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I'm just saying, they get their regular pay, but these would be included as extra incentives, that's all.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:17 AM
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they should without question but they won't.
But who do you think is to blame for that? I mean, is it the refs just not doing their job, or is the UFC telling them not to?
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:35 AM
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i haven't seen any UFC refs take points for slacking. in Pride they did.
There were a few times they took points away even though the whole fight was back and forth action packed.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:21 PM
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Fighters should just get a portion of their purse taken from them.
that's wrong and thankfully it will never happen. can you imagine how mad you would be if hughes' had a portion of his purse taken away from him when he didn't finish lytle?

this is the ultimate fighting championship, not the ultimate finishing championship. fans are getting way too hungry for spectacular finishes these days. mainly they've been spoiled by anderson silva, that's where all this conversation started in the first place. he had seven awesome finishes in a row and now that he finally doesn't finish two opponents in a row, everyone is whining. it's really sad.

but i do think there should be yellow cards for continually falling down on your butt on purpose like leites was doing.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:32 PM
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It is stupid to take away for not finishing a fight. that is why the pride system works. it doesnt have to be a finish but it will punsh people that run away or lay and pray without trying to finish thats what matters the trying to finish the fight not if it atuly happens or not
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:33 PM
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that's wrong and thankfully it will never happen. can you imagine how mad you would be if hughes' had a portion of his purse taken away from him when he didn't finish lytle?

this is the ultimate fighting championship, not the ultimate finishing championship. fans are getting way too hungry for spectacular finishes these days. mainly they've been spoiled by anderson silva, that's where all this conversation started in the first place. he had seven awesome finishes in a row and now that he finally doesn't finish two opponents in a row, everyone is whining. it's really sad.

but i do think there should be yellow cards for continually falling down on your butt on purpose like leites was doing.
I am not talking about taking money away for not finishing a fight but for not making an attempt to fight. Whats a warning, a point deduction going to do against a guy whos already losing 3 rounds. Leites didn't do anything to make it anywhere close to a fight. A fighter gets payed to fight, not fighting or making an attempt at it should come with some form of repercussion.
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:02 PM
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But who do you think is to blame for that? I mean, is it the refs just not doing their job, or is the UFC telling them not to?
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:03 PM
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Just had an idea for Dana. We've seen it at every event, and oftentimes, the main event (Silva/Cote, Silva/Leites, Arlovski/Sylvia III) where it seems the opponents don't seem to give a crap if they fans get upset because the fights are lackluster in aggression.

Dana should institute a "finishing bonus." They already have "Fight of the Night", "Submission of the Night", and "KO of the night,", but I think it would help all the fighters know they can get some extra money in the fight by not letting it go to the judges. Granted, the fighters shouldn't allow that to happen anyways.

Or possibly not awarding a "win bonus" if it goes to the judges' hands? Now I realize sometimes the fighters are working their asses off (Sherk/Griffin, Sherk/Hughes, etc.) to get the finish, but if it doesn't happen, too bad.

What do you guys think?
I think that the finishing Bonus should go to the guy who finishes the match, not the pair of them...but that might cost the company heaps...so I say scrap the win bonus unless they finish their oppoenent
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