Go Back   Matt-Hughes.com Official Forums > MMA Related > UFC

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 04-20-2009, 05:55 PM
rockdawg21's Avatar
rockdawg21 rockdawg21 is offline
I'm kind of a big deal
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 5,584
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Llamafighter
I think Alves is going to be a lot of trouble for GSP. I don't think anyone should be scheduling any Silva GSP fights until he survives Alves.
No doubt. You can be sure GSP isn't looking past Alves. That guy's a freaking beast!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-20-2009, 06:15 PM
VCURamFan's Avatar
VCURamFan VCURamFan is offline
Waiting for June 6th
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Basketball Capital of the World
Posts: 14,334
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke
not anymore trouble then jon fitch was ... gsp beat alves up for the whole fight however long it goes ..
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Fitch is a strong wrestler, Alves is a Muay Thai wrecking machine (to steal Dana's words). I keep saying this over & over, but no one seems to listen: this is the first time in 6 years/16 fights that GSP will face a non-grappler. Look at his record:

BJ - jits
Fitch - wrestler
sarah - jits
Matt - wrestler
Kos - wrestler
sarah - jits
Matt - wrestler
BJ - jits
Sherk - wrestler
Trigg - wrestler
Mayhem - wrestler
Strasser - jits
Matt - wrestler
Heiron - wrestler
Karo - judo
Spratt - stiker
Denny - wrestler
Galbraith - ???
Bruckman - judo
Menjivar - wrestler

Of his 20 fights, at least 18 of them have been against guys whose game has been based on the ground. With Thiago, he's going to face someone who outclasses him standing & is at least as strong in his takedown defense against Matt as GSP was. This will by no means be a breeze through for GSP.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-20-2009, 06:18 PM
Tyburn's Avatar
Tyburn Tyburn is offline
Angry @ Injustice!
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: England
Posts: 17,097
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VCURamFan
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Fitch is a strong wrestler, Alves is a Muay Thai wrecking machine (to steal Dana's words). I keep saying this over & over, but no one seems to listen: this is the first time in 6 years/16 fights that GSP will face a non-grappler. Look at his record:

BJ - jits
Fitch - wrestler
sarah - jits
Matt - wrestler
Kos - wrestler
sarah - jits
Matt - wrestler
BJ - jits
Sherk - wrestler
Trigg - wrestler
Mayhem - wrestler
Strasser - jits
Matt - wrestler
Heiron - wrestler
Karo - judo
Spratt - stiker
Denny - wrestler
Galbraith - ???
Bruckman - judo
Menjivar - wrestler

Of his 20 fights, at least 18 of them have been against guys whose game has been based on the ground. With Thiago, he's going to face someone who outclasses him standing & is at least as strong in his takedown defense against Matt as GSP was. This will by no means be a breeze through for GSP.
Everyone has overlooked the most important point of all.

Will Thiago Alves even make weight

Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-20-2009, 07:54 PM
CAVEMAN
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buc Nasty
Feel free to elaborate my friend!
GSP has good of stand up skills as Silva. However, I believe GSP would use his striking enough to secure takedowns.

But to say that if the fight stays on its feet that GSP does not stand a chance is not accurate. Yes, I believe Silva would hold an advantage, but GSP could pose some problems to him.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-20-2009, 07:56 PM
CAVEMAN
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Alves will be a tuff match up for GSP, but I still think GSP will out work him.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04-20-2009, 08:02 PM
rearnakedchoke
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VCURamFan
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Fitch is a strong wrestler, Alves is a Muay Thai wrecking machine (to steal Dana's words). I keep saying this over & over, but no one seems to listen: this is the first time in 6 years/16 fights that GSP will face a non-grappler. Look at his record:

BJ - jits
Fitch - wrestler
sarah - jits
Matt - wrestler
Kos - wrestler
sarah - jits
Matt - wrestler
BJ - jits
Sherk - wrestler
Trigg - wrestler
Mayhem - wrestler
Strasser - jits
Matt - wrestler
Heiron - wrestler
Karo - judo
Spratt - stiker
Denny - wrestler
Galbraith - ???
Bruckman - judo
Menjivar - wrestler

Of his 20 fights, at least 18 of them have been against guys whose game has been based on the ground. With Thiago, he's going to face someone who outclasses him standing & is at least as strong in his takedown defense against Matt as GSP was. This will by no means be a breeze through for GSP.
which will make it easier for gsp to take him down ... kos couldn't take him down cuz a) he was afraid of getting caught and b) his strikes aren't timed well enough to set-up his takedowns .. GSP is the best takedown artist in the game, he will have alves on his back and keep him there within the first minute .. if gsp could take down all these guys above and keep them there, why can't he do it to alves?
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 04-21-2009, 12:22 AM
Buc Nasty
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CAVEMAN
GSP has good of stand up skills as Silva. However, I believe GSP would use his striking enough to secure takedowns.

But to say that if the fight stays on its feet that GSP does not stand a chance is not accurate. Yes, I believe Silva would hold an advantage, but GSP could pose some problems to him.
GSP's stand up is not as good as Silva's IMO. If GSP can get the takedowns then yes he can cause problems but thats the point I was making, if. If it stays standing Anderson will finish him. As VCU pointed out, GSP is not exactly proven against strikers and Anderson is not too bad in that department.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 04-21-2009, 04:04 PM
CAVEMAN
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buc Nasty
GSP's stand up is not as good as Silva's IMO. If GSP can get the takedowns then yes he can cause problems but thats the point I was making, if. If it stays standing Anderson will finish him. As VCU pointed out, GSP is not exactly proven against strikers and Anderson is not too bad in that department.
I agree, but you said Anderson would destroy GSP on his feet & I don't think that is entirely true. GSP has great leg kicks and a