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Originally Posted by rearnakedchoke

true, i liked pride and all, but there are some people that were just too diehard and bad mouthed anything that the ufc did .. times have changed now though ... even still though, with pride dead, they are hanging on to anything they can, although i think mir spanking nog may have put the final nail in the coffin for them ...

as long as Fedor keeps crushing UFC champs (and he will), and Dana continues to duck Fedor's offer to have 1 fight, winner take all...Pride will live forever.


and let's not forget all the UFC guys going to Pride and losing....minus the ones Fedor crushed. and it's not like Nog didn't win the UFC title. did Liddell win any Pride title or did any other UFC guy win a belt at their respective weights?

when you have Matt Hughes picking you only if you're in shape, that should tell you all you need to know about who has more talent. when people talk about fights and strategies, it's always about how they will attack each other, strengths/weaknesses, gameplan. etc. when it just comes doewn to who has more cardio, then you know he's a bad dude.

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Originally Posted by Hughes_GOAT

when you have Matt Hughes picking you only if you're in shape, that should tell you all you need to know about who has more talent. when people talk about fights and strategies, it's always about how they will attack each other, strengths/weaknesses, gameplan. etc. when it just comes doewn to who has more cardio, then you know he's a bad dude.

QFT

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Originally Posted by Hughes_GOAT

as long as Fedor keeps crushing UFC champs (and he will), and Dana continues to duck Fedor's offer to have 1 fight, winner take all...Pride will live forever.


and let's not forget all the UFC guys going to Pride and losing....minus the ones Fedor crushed. and it's not like Nog didn't win the UFC title. did Liddell win any Pride title or did any other UFC guy win a belt at their respective weights?

Dan & Wandi did...

Originally Posted by VCURamFan

Dan & Wandi did...

Dan fought two matches in the UFC and has even said he was never a UFC fighter. he also fought in the Brazil Open before the UFC (two matches). Dan has as many fights in the UFC, now, as he did in RINGS. before his latest UFC fights, he had about 18 Pride fights to 2 UFC fights.

Wandi fought 3 times in the UFC over a year and a half period. he also fought in Pride and IVC during that time. in fact, he fought 3 times in Pride, same as UFC, but he did it in 4 months time, as opposed to about a year and a half in the UFC. before his latest UFC fights, Wandi has about 28 Pride fights and 3 UFC fights.

so i guess technically Wandi and Dan could be called UFC guys making it as a Pride champs because they fought there first, before Pride? but i won't ever buy it. they could also be called Brazil Open and BVF fighters over UFC fighters since they fought there first, before the UFC. it's where you fight the most, not where you started.

all the guys from the UFC who came to Pride, Pulver, Liddell, Coleman, Randleman, etc...all had many UFC fights. so they could be called UFC guys. 2 to 3 UFC fights doesn't make you a UFC guy in my opinion. especially if you have 18 to 28 more fights in another org.

[VCURamFan]

Originally Posted by Hughes_GOAT

Dan fought two matches in the UFC and has even said he was never a UFC fighter. he also fought in the Brazil Open before the UFC (two matches). Dan has as many fights in the UFC, now, as he did in RINGS. before his latest UFC fights, he had about 18 Pride fights to 2 UFC fights.

Wandi fought 3 times in the UFC over a year and a half period. he also fought in Pride and IVC during that time. in fact, he fought 3 times in Pride, same as UFC, but he did it in 4 months time, as opposed to about a year and a half in the UFC. before his latest UFC fights, Wandi has about 28 Pride fights and 3 UFC fights.

so i guess technically Wandi and Dan could be called UFC guys making it as a Pride champs because they fought there first, before Pride? but i won't ever buy it. they could also be called Brazil Open and BVF fighters over UFC fighters since they fought there first, before the UFC. it's where you fight the most, not where you started.

all the guys from the UFC who came to Pride, Pulver, Liddell, Coleman, Randleman, etc...all had many UFC fights. so they could be called UFC guys. 2 to 3 UFC fights doesn't make you a UFC guy in my opinion. especially if you have 18 to 28 more fights in another org.

O, I know that they're PRIDE fighters. I was just arguing semantics.

Originally Posted by VCURamFan

O, I know that they're PRIDE fighters. I was just arguing semantics.

semantics

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Originally Posted by Hughes_GOAT

semantics

No, see, now I can right this off as homework. My senior philosophy seminar is the Semantics of Natural Language. I was just practicing!