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Old 03-29-2009, 06:21 PM
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1) I haven't seen a dead body and was eagerly awaiting my first time.

2) Its skull was no bigger than the palm of my hand and so fragile too. I was afraid my grip was going to break it so I didn't it hold it that long.

3) It was a 5 years old and still in pretty good shape. I was surprised to see what was inside the spinal cord was still preserved. I forgot the scientific name for it, but it means "horses tail" and the stuff inside our spinal cord really does look like it.

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1) first time I saw a dead body was an accident. I had to go fetch something for someone on my work experience, and went through the chapel of rest...and there she was...some old lady lying in a coffin

Second time I saw a dead body was the same week, I saw a body of a man...not much older then myself now. He was having his blood drained out and they were pumping him full of some funny pink liquid. part of the embalming process

2) have you ever held a budgie or very small rodent, like a hamster or mouse in your hand? where your afraid if you hold to tight you might crush it by accident

3) does the brain look different when its more advanced in age? I mean, things the framework for thoughts and memories are not things we are born with, although every single memory is stored and thought stored, you cant access some, like when you were really young, not because theyaint there...but because there is no framework to process the information...thats also why really early memories carry no particular date, or time...they sort of float...Just wondering if a full capacity brain LOOKS different in a physiological way?

4) Uber LOL Apparently the Pathologist person who I watched doing the embalming has bronchitis or some respiratory disease caused by prolonged exposure to the chemicals they use to preserve the body before burrial
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:27 PM
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Definitely, we do!

I wish you could work on figuring out how to restore sense of smell and taste, Danelle. I lost mine two years ago due to head surgery. Apparently, because the olfactory nerves grow through the skull, when they are cut or torn or even stretched, it's a done deal. So I can't smell anything and all I can taste is sweet, salty, bitter and sour, but no actual flavors. So texture of food has become important.

They warned me before the surgery, but until you're actually living it, you don't fully comprehend the magnitude of how much this affects the quality of your life. Not to mention being around gas or some other dangerous substance and not realizing it or eating/drinking something that is spoiled.

So, anybody, fyi, your sense of taste is very much "married" with your sense of smell. So do go smell the roses and don't take it for granted!
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Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that Bonnie. That would be something really cool to work on. I want to specalize on cell engineering and with Obama opening up the stem cell world, it may be possible. And I know Obama isn't popular on here, I'm not a huge fan of him either. However, I am excited at the aspect of stem cell research finally being more opened and at the prospects of what it can do.

I also want to do research on the optic nerve and see if stem cells can regenerate it. Eye issues hit close to home with my Momma, and it would really mean a lot to me if I can help her out.
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:34 PM
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Hey, that would be great. I'm always up for learning new things or hearing others viewpoints (even if I might not agree with them). Have you talked with Nate about a science/engineering/medical forum vs. thread yet? Or you can just go start a thread in the Woodshed about this particular topic. I'll watch for it.
I did send nate a message, but i am sure he is quite busy. So for now, i think i will just start a few topics in the Woodshed. I am a little nervous about starting one an evolution....even though i am just trying to show where evolutionary biologists come from (for anyone who wants to know, I AM NOT ONE).

Yeah catch me in the woodshed
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:38 PM
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You'll find some strong opinions on here about evolution, so good luck in that thread if you start it.

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1) first time I saw a dead body was an accident. I had to go fetch something for someone on my work experience, and went through the chapel of rest...and there she was...some old lady lying in a coffin

Second time I saw a dead body was the same week, I saw a body of a man...not much older then myself now. He was having his blood drained out and they were pumping him full of some funny pink liquid. part of the embalming process

2) have you ever held a budgie or very small rodent, like a hamster or mouse in your hand? where your afraid if you hold to tight you might crush it by accident

3) does the brain look different when its more advanced in age? I mean, things the framework for thoughts and memories are not things we are born with, although every single memory is stored and thought stored, you cant access some, like when you were really young, not because theyaint there...but because there is no framework to process the information...thats also why really early memories carry no particular date, or time...they sort of float...Just wondering if a full capacity brain LOOKS different in a physiological way?

4) Uber LOL Apparently the Pathologist person who I watched doing the embalming has bronchitis or some respiratory disease caused by prolonged exposure to the chemicals they use to preserve the body before burrial
1) Oh wow. That pink fluid you saw them pumping into the body was probably formeldahyde Dave. I always wondered what color it was, so I might have to look that up.

2) I've held a hamster before and he was cute lil booger. I didn't have to worry about crushing him because I was afraid he was going to bite me.

3) One of the brains I saw was from a 5 year old corpse and it was preserved with chemicals, and to a degree it did shrink. And a course you couldn't see any of the nerves and blood vessels because it's been long inactive. And I'll be sure to ask the instructor your question Dave, because that's a good one.

4) I was wondering about the side effects of prolonged exposure to embalming fluids. But I won't be working with the dead my entire life, so hopefully I won't have much to worry about.
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1) Oh wow. That pink fluid you saw them pumping into the body was probably formeldahyde Dave. I always wondered what color it was, so I might have to look that up.

2) I've held a hamster before and he was cute lil booger. I didn't have to worry about crushing him because I was afraid he was going to bite me.

3) One of the brains I saw was from a 5 year old corpse and it was preserved with chemicals, and to a degree it did shrink. And a course you couldn't see any of the nerves and blood vessels because it's been long inactive. And I'll be sure to ask the instructor your question Dave, because that's a good one.

4) I was wondering about the side effects of prolonged exposure to embalming fluids. But I won't be working with the dead my entire life, so hopefully I won't have much to worry about.
1) it was something pretty powerful that was for sure. I cant remember what she said it was. but the colour was like strawberry milkshake

2) well...I concure with small rodents...because when they bite it can hurt...a bird on the other hand...pecks dont really hurt, scratch or anything like that...whereas my psycho Hamster called Teri, that I had in Lincoln nearly bit my Mothers Finger tip off
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I did send nate a message, but i am sure he is quite busy. So for now, i think i will just start a few topics in the Woodshed. I am a little nervous about starting one an evolution....even though i am just trying to show where evolutionary biologists come from (for anyone who wants to know, I AM NOT ONE).

Yeah catch me in the woodshed
Like Danelle said, I'm sure there will be plenty of opinions expressed in an "evolution" thread. If we only ever read or listened to like-minded people, our world would be pretty narrow and small. Plus, how would we ever know where we stand on things if we never bumped into the thing(s) that helped to make our position(s) clear.
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Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that Bonnie. That would be something really cool to work on. I want to specalize on cell engineering and with Obama opening up the stem cell world, it may be possible. And I know Obama isn't popular on here, I'm not a huge fan of him either. However, I am excited at the aspect of stem cell research finally being more opened and at the prospects of what it can do.

I also want to do research on the optic nerve and see if stem cells can regenerate it. Eye issues hit close to home with my Momma, and it would really mean a lot to me if I can help her out.
Yes, stem cell research is a hot potato topic, but an important, very important area that has the potential to really help a lot of people in this world. Hopefully, they'll be able to find a better way to do this so there is no longer the controversy that surrounds it now and we can finally get on to exploring it's many benefits.
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Yes, stem cell research is a hot potato topic, but an important, very important area that has the potential to really help a lot of people in this world. Hopefully, they'll be able to find a better way to do this so there is no longer the controversy that surrounds it now and we can finally get on to exploring it's many benefits.
I'm sure there will be ways to make stem cells less controversial. I was reading in my school's newspaper, this one scientists who was able to make adult stem cells revert back to their embryonic stange. Now that is fascinating.

And I do understand the controversy behind embryonic stem cells, but the way I feel is why waste an aborted baby's life when it can be put to good use? It's a shame that the baby had to be aborted, but it can give so much life in return.
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I'm sure there will be ways to make stem cells less controversial. I was reading in my school's newspaper, this one scientists who was able to make adult stem cells revert back to their embryonic stange. Now that is fascinating.

And I do understand the controversy behind embryonic stem cells, but the way I feel is why waste an aborted baby's life when it can be put to good use? It's a shame that the baby had to be aborted, but it can give so much life in return.

Hey fellow scientist..... I was going to talk about stem cells as well in the woodshed. I posted a couple threads on evolutionary biology and I already feel bad about it. So maybe ill move on to a slightly less controversial subject.

Maybe you woud like to join me?
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:06 PM
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Hey fellow scientist..... I was going to talk about stem cells as well in the woodshed. I posted a couple threads on evolutionary biology and I already feel bad about it. So maybe ill move on to a slightly less controversial subject.

Maybe you woud like to join me?
You shouldn't feel bad about it, it's science. I had to learn something pretty fast yesterday because my emotions at first, were starting to get to me when I was reading these cadevar's death certificates. That something was this: 1) these people donated their body to science 2) they are in a better place 3) they donated their body to science for a reason. We are not doing anything bad as scientists, all we are trying to do is better the world one step at time.

And as soon as I finish typing up my fly lab report I'll jump into some topics. I'm only in my second year and been exposed to the basics of chemistry and biology. So my knowledge isn't as deep as yours yet.
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