Gun Thread

[BradW]

Originally Posted by adamt

gun control is the equivalent of making it illegal for people to buy cars in order to reduce drunk driving



furthermore, i disagree that the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to today's guns(assault weapons/ak 47s/ etc) as much as i disagree that the 1st amendment doesn't apply to todays means of free speech(twitter, facebook, blogs, national tv)

if the 2nd amendment is done away with because we have better guns than when it was enacted, then lets do away with the 1st amendment as well based on the same reasons

the first amendment isnt killing anyone...thats the difference.

[NateR]

Originally Posted by BradW

the first amendment isnt killing anyone...thats the difference.

That's a stupid comment. How many millions of Americans have willingly sacrificed their lives fighting for the freedoms guaranteed by the 1st AND 2nd amendment?

Also how many Americans have lost their lives because other nations are threatened by our concepts of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc.?

[adamt]

Originally Posted by BradW

the first amendment isnt killing anyone...thats the difference.

there are dozens of people who have committed suicide due to cyber bullying, so much so that people have been found guilty of murder because of their facebook stalking and harassing

upon this revelation are you now in support of banning the 1st amendment as well?

but just to be clear, that example was arguing against those that want to ban modern guns just cause they are better than the muskets of 1776.... our social press is better too, doesn't mean the 1st doesn't apply to today's facebook, email, blogs, vlogs and twitter

and still, banning guns is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving, or banning cameras to prevent child porn, or banning matches to prevent forest fires

[BradW]

Originally Posted by NateR

That's a stupid comment. How many millions of Americans have willingly sacrificed their lives fighting for the freedoms guaranteed by the 1st AND 2nd amendment?

Also how many Americans have lost their lives because other nations are threatened by our concepts of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc.?

your not the only country in the world that believes in freedom of religion,freedom of speech,and freedom of the press.

but if it wasn't for guns there would be a lot less death.

[NateR]

Originally Posted by BradW

but if it wasn't for guns there would be a lot less death.

I don't believe that for a second. The world was a much, much more violent place before the invention of guns.

[Play The Man]

For a limited time (I don't know how long) NRA lifetime memberships are only $300 (down from normal cost of $1,000). I am now a "Lifer".
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/s...ampaignID=ar15

[County Mike]

Thanks for the notice about the liftetime membership discount. I'm debating, only because I just renewed. Wish I was already up for renewal, I'd jump on the lifetime deal. Now I'll feel like I'm wasting the renewal I just paid. hmmmm

[VCURamFan]

Originally Posted by County Mike

Thanks for the notice about the liftetime membership discount. I'm debating, only because I just renewed. Wish I was already up for renewal, I'd jump on the lifetime deal. Now I'll feel like I'm wasting the renewal I just paid. hmmmm

Well how much did you pay for your renewal? If it's less than $700, then you'd still be saving money on the lifetime membership.

Just think of it as a downpayment.

[County Mike]

Yeah, I considered that. Even though it's a huge savings, still hard to justify to myself spending $300 right now when I have a wife and daughter to support. Dropping $25 per year is easier to do without missing the money.

[VCURamFan]

Originally Posted by County Mike

Yeah, I considered that. Even though it's a huge savings, still hard to justify to myself spending $300 right now when I have a wife and daughter to support. Dropping $25 per year is easier to do without missing the money.

Good point. I keep forgetting most of y'all have to budget for more than just yourself.

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