the start of the first Episode (English Trials)

Originally Posted by Tyburn

Why would I pay any attention to wales?

I mean ive been through it to get to Eire, and I went many years ago for a month to....I have no idea how you spell it...but phonetically it sounds like a-ber-rist-with on the coast

I dont follow Football, or rugby

Most people dont know that wales even HAS a National Anthem

In which case mate, maybe you shouldnt make generalised statements that the welsh national anthem isnt really used by the welsh. Its used a ton. Thats a typically ignorant english thing to say.

remember that I am english. A lot of people dont realise that wales even have electricity due to that very ignorance.

On another note, since living here in wales, people dont mind so much being called british, the issue is more that most of the rest of the world hear british and think england. And the welsh hate being refered to as being english.

A Prime example is when Charlotee Church who is from Cardiff, met President Bush, he asked her where she was from, when she said wales, he asked what State wales was in.

Ok, enough with what is or is not British because in a week TUF: UK vs. US (TUFUKVSUS...Tufukvsus... Tufuk Vsus... Tufukus?) is going to start and you guys are going to be the only Brits on here, and you made need each others emotional support

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by warriorlion

In which case mate, maybe you shouldnt make generalised statements that the welsh national anthem isnt really used by the welsh. Its used a ton. Thats a typically ignorant english thing to say.

remember that I am english. A lot of people dont realise that wales even have electricity due to that very ignorance.

On another note, since living here in wales, people dont mind so much being called british, the issue is more that most of the rest of the world hear british and think england. And the welsh hate being refered to as being english.

A Prime example is when Charlotee Church who is from Cardiff, met President Bush, he asked her where she was from, when she said wales, he asked what State wales was in.

I dont really give much thought to Wales, John, it has to be said.

But Why should one think that Wales has a national Anthem? After all, its got an ENGLISH Royal Connection. The Prince of Wales...and you dont see a Title like that being given to someone for Scotland or Ulster...do you...so we have a Principle Royal for Wales...

Why is this interesting? because the other Principles are for Districts of England which used to act as Kingdoms...The crown is treating Wales as if it has NO independance...just like York, Wessex, Gloucester, Kent.

Does Kent have a national anthem of its own? Wales is being treated, as a district of the Crown, NOT as a country in Union under the crown. Excuse me for taking the Royalist view

Does Wales have a Parliament like Scotland?? NO it has an assembly...like the City of London has an Assembly.

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by TheConcretekid

Ok, enough with what is or is not British because in a week TUF: UK vs. US (TUFUKVSUS...Tufukvsus... Tufuk Vsus... Tufukus?) is going to start and you guys are going to be the only Brits on here, and you made need each others emotional support

I havent decided which I'm backing yet.

Originally Posted by Tyburn

I dont really give much thought to Wales, John, it has to be said.

But Why should one think that Wales has a national Anthem? After all, its got an ENGLISH Royal Connection. The Prince of Wales...and you dont see a Title like that being given to someone for Scotland or Ulster...do you...so we have a Principle Royal for Wales...

Why is this interesting? because the other Principles are for Districts of England which used to act as Kingdoms...The crown is treating Wales as if it has NO independance...just like York, Wessex, Gloucester, Kent.

Does Kent have a national anthem of its own? Wales is being treated, as a district of the Crown, NOT as a country in Union under the crown. Excuse me for taking the Royalist view

Does Wales have a Parliament like Scotland?? NO it has an assembly...like the City of London has an Assembly.

and your point is what exactly?????

bottom line is that is exactly why welsh people hate the english.

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by warriorlion

and your point is what exactly?????

bottom line is that is exactly why welsh people hate the english.

My point is..as far as the crown is concerned...they dont seem to be treated as much more then a District of England....Different Districts of England dont usually have their own well used anthem do they

If they want more...they can always ask for their independance...or build a wall like the Scots did

Of course they hate the English, because they are always overlooked

Hey...maybe the welsh guy will win TUF...and put Wales on the map

the english will not give wales independence, the assembley have previously sought to govern itself, and its flatly refused. ah well.


All the same heres to team UK kicking tail and taking names

[Tyburn]

Originally Posted by warriorlion

the english will not give wales independence, the assembley have previously sought to govern itself, and its flatly refused. ah well.

Really? did they actually ask