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Old 01-23-2010, 09:50 PM
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I think blood testing should happen the day after the fight.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:19 AM
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15 years of testing clean should be enough proof Manny isn't juicing.
Rumors are horrible, if a guy tests clean for 15 years and people are still suspicious then you might as well assume that every pro athlete is using.
Right, cuz Barry Bonds and all the rest were dropping dirty for all those years....

I'm not gonna make this a big pissing match about Manny, it's already been beaten to death. This is about the testing, and we know the testing is inadequate. Just because a person passed the tests from the AC's don't mean they are always clean. Look at Shane Mosley, he never failed a drug test and he was forced to admit to a grand jury that he lied and he had been using EPO.

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I think blood testing should happen the day after the fight.
Can you explain why you believe it should happen the day after the fight?

Also, does that mean you don't think any blood testing should be done before a fight?
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:45 PM
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Here is an interview with Victor Conte I just came across today. Lots of interesting info on what he thinks of the current testing and how athletes can beat the system.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoEl...layer_embedded

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnGa3...layer_embedded
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Old 01-29-2010, 08:10 PM
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Here is an interview with Victor Conte I just came across today. Lots of interesting info on what he thinks of the current testing and how athletes can beat the system.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoEl...layer_embedded

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnGa3...layer_embedded
Victor contradicts himself a few times. If so many are very low detection span, then why give the max cut off date of 10 days.

Nice to see Victor is back working with athletes again. I hate to say it but being the biggest cheat in all of sports and allowing him to work with any sport is a shame.
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Right, cuz Barry Bonds and all the rest were dropping dirty for all those years....

I'm not gonna make this a big pissing match about Manny, it's already been beaten to death. This is about the testing, and we know the testing is inadequate. Just because a person passed the tests from the AC's don't mean they are always clean. Look at Shane Mosley, he never failed a drug test and he was forced to admit to a grand jury that he lied and he had been using EPO.

Can you explain why you believe it should happen the day after the fight?

Also, does that mean you don't think any blood testing should be done before a fight?
Seriously, I know we go back and forth, but your arguments with me get stupid.
Is Barry Bonds tested before every game like a fighter is a fight?
NO, BASEBALL ANALOGIES DO NOT WORK FOR MMA

I didn't say I don't think NONE should be done before the fight,
I am saying that too close to the fight and its going to hurt your training.
Ever given blood? Or had blood taken? You're woozy, and shouldn't even drive,
let alone do something like TRAIN.
I weigh 230lbs, and I am lightheaded and out of it when I give blood,
I can only imagine a guy who weighs 100lbs less would feel.

Blood testing can pick up on things taken months ago,
so taking blood the day after a fight when its not going to effect your training is just as effective.
Day before the fight / Day after the fight would have the exact same results.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:13 AM
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The bottom line is banned substances do not leave you with more skill,
most are used to building muscles.
If I am the better fighter I am going to beat you, drugs or not.
I would be all for blood testing after a fight,
but I think blood testing within 15 days of a fight is completely unfair.
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