Originally Posted by Hughes_GOAT
it's up to them to a point. just because they may think they're fine, doesn't mean they are. it helps if they have support from people that can see they possibly need help and to then help them get it. i don't know if they have that?
Well, they first need to admit they need help. After that, if they don't have a good support system, they have to look for it. People can point out to you that you're headed in the wrong direction or try to show you the right way, but you have to be willing to listen, to learn and to change the course you've been on. None of that's easy and some people just don't want to do what it would take to turn things around for themselves. They want that "immediate" result and if they don't see it, they're too ready to throw in the towel with every excuse as to why it didn't work.
They can have all the help in the world, but in the end, they
have to want it in order for things to change and for it to stick.