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Old 09-26-2009, 05:03 AM
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This is a letter to the Editor from a close buddy of mine . I had him send me a copy so i could post it for you all here .



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Dear Editor,

I read you column regularly and am glad to see there are still some worthwhile opinions out there.

I would like to offer my support for Dallas Kidd. He always seems to be right on target with his

views and opinions.

That really shouldn't surprise most clear thinking folks, but what never fails to surprise me are

the outlandish rebuttals..........Are there still people out there that HAVEN'T figured out our once

great nation is going down the tubes? Maybe they're just trying to hurry it along with their

collectivist "group think" mentality and New World Order agenda, who really knows?

The elimination of God from the classrooms and courtrooms is just a small example of what's

really happening throughout our nation. The elimination of any trace of a compassionate, just and

fair society based upon ideals and principals that just "happen" to be shared with a particular established

religion is the goal. First Christianity, then all of society will follow...........or maybe I have that backwards!

Just to refresh everyone's memory here are just a few more things the "Enlightened Moonbats"

have successfully eliminated.

1.) Mom and Pop department stores. We now have corp. giant Wal-Mart on every street corner

pedaling junk Chinese imports and abusing their employees. (thank you NAFTA)

2.) Good Jobs. We now have menial low paying "jobs" that are really nothing more than 12 hr. work

camps for the elite where they can pick and discard from the labor pool at will. (thank you NAFTA, Unions)

3.) National Sovereignty. We're no longer the USA, but now the NAU, part of the global plan for a One World Gov't.

(And you thought illegal immigration was just inept border control...........) (thank you CFR, UN)

4.) Stable Currency. While our fiat US Currency has alway been a well crafted illusion, easily inflated, or deflated

on a whim from Wallstreet, it can also be rendered useless paper just as quick. (thank you Fed Reserve, World Bank)

5.) 1st and 2nd amendment rights. Almost.........give them a little more time and just see if you can shoot your gun

and voice your opinion on the matter..........

What does a Godless society look like?

Imagine waking every morning at 4:00AM, putting on your little grey "day pajamas" and boarding the Mass Transit Bus

to take you to your Gov't appointed "job". You'll be in good company though, as you sit among your peers, all dumbed

down and programmed to be "equal", "accepting", and "tolerant". Just like you were taught in the Gov't ran public school system.

You might even get to whisper your dissatasfaction with the "system", but be cautious who overhears you.

There will be a few stops along the way..........Wally-World of course, where you can buy another pair of grey pajamas,

or some plastic GMO food to keep you nourished. Providing you have enough "credits" on your NAU debit card, you

might even get one of those cute little cell phones with GPS everyone is talking about. That way, Big Brother can easily

find you when it's your turn for mandatory inocculations, and your monthly check up.

Then it's a quick stop at the Global Health Clinic where a group of teenage girls get dropped off for their mandatory

"Planned Parenthood" meeting. One more brief stop at the UN Global Police station to exchange prisioners,...

er,..I mean "dissenters", from the back of the bus and you're moving again. Along the way you pass through what was

once your town, your city, your home. You see burned out and dilapitated buildings where neighborhoods once stood.

Where Churches once were, there are now prisons and human warehouses, all standing tall and grey amid rubble and

trash lined streets.

You are alone. You are all alone. There are no longer any patriots fighting for a civil society governed by a fair and just

"limited" government, the last few just got off at the last stop............

Your closest family was "relocated" to another "district" in another state, and you only have...........what?

Your faith in God? No, that's been take away too. Outlawed. Eliminated. Gone. The rulers have decreed it so.

Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Your stop is next, as it is every day and as it will be until the day you are no longer useful

to the "system". As you deboard the bus and head down that long razor wire lined cattle chute toward the factory

you call home.............don't forget to close the gate.

Impossible, you say?

Keep electing Marxist/Socialist Moonbats to public office and expecting them to take care of you and we'll see...

I'm sure they have nothing but your best interests in mind.

I'm constantly reminded of something a wise man once told me.

"The worst possible injury a man can inflict upon society is to send his children to school.

They enter with open minds and return with a head full of someone else's ideas, serving no greater purpose that to

exemplify the adage the it is entirely possible to be educated beyond one's intelligence."
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:40 AM
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Dear Editor,

I read your column regularly and am glad to see there are still some worthwhile opinions out there.

I would like to offer my support for Dallas Kidd. He always seems to be right on target with his views and opinions.

That really shouldn't surprise most clear thinking folks, but what never fails to surprise me are the outlandish rebuttals..........Are there still people out there that HAVEN'T figured out our once great nation is going down the tubes? Maybe they're just trying to hurry it along with their collectivist "group think" mentality and New World Order agenda, who really knows?

As if this has only been happening for the past 9 months.

The elimination of God from the classrooms and courtrooms is just a small example of what's really happening throughout our nation. The elimination of any trace of a compassionate, just and fair society based upon ideals and principals that just "happen" to be shared with a particular established religion is the goal. First Christianity, then all of society will follow...........or maybe I have that backwards!

You want God in your kids schools then send them to a private school of your choice with the religion of your choice. You have that choice, use it.

Just to refresh everyone's memory here are just a few more things the "Enlightened Moonbats" have successfully eliminated.

Loses credibility with the name calling.

1.) Mom and Pop department stores. We now have corp. giant Wal-Mart on every street corner pedaling junk Chinese imports and abusing their employees. (thank you NAFTA)

Any proof of this company abusing their employees? If they wish, they could try to unionize, but that may be a problem.

2.) Good Jobs. We now have menial low paying "jobs" that are really nothing more than 12 hr. work camps for the elite where they can pick and discard from the labor pool at will. (thank you NAFTA, Unions)

What jobs were available before? If this guy had a clue, he would realize that unions protect employees, even in states that are "at will" states. This meaning an employer can fire an employee for just about any reason at all, certain restrictions apply.

3.) National Sovereignty. We're no longer the USA, but now the NAU, part of the global plan for a One World Gov't. (And you thought illegal immigration was just inept border control...........) (thank you CFR, UN)

I still live in the USA.

4.) Stable Currency. While our fiat US Currency has alway been a well crafted illusion, easily inflated, or deflated on a whim from Wallstreet, it can also be rendered useless paper just as quick. (thank you Fed Reserve, World Bank)

This has again been going on for some time.

5.) 1st and 2nd amendment rights. Almost.........give them a little more time and just see if you can shoot your gun and voice your opinion on the matter..........

Fight for those rights. I remember the "free speech zones" which were set up during Bush #2's term.

What does a Godless society look like?

One which uses reason and logic instead of bowing to an imaginary magical figure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo

Imagine waking every morning at 4:00AM, putting on your little grey "day pajamas" and boarding the Mass Transit Bus to take you to your Gov't appointed "job". You'll be in good company though, as you sit among your peers, all dumbed down and programmed to be "equal", "accepting", and "tolerant". Just like you were taught in the Gov't ran public school system.

You might even get to whisper your dissatasfaction with the "system", but be cautious who overhears you.

There will be a few stops along the way..........Wally-World of course, where you can buy another pair of grey pajamas,

or some plastic GMO food to keep you nourished. Providing you have enough "credits" on your NAU debit card, you

might even get one of those cute little cell phones with GPS everyone is talking about. That way, Big Brother can easily

find you when it's your turn for mandatory inocculations, and your monthly check up.

Then it's a quick stop at the Global Health Clinic where a group of teenage girls get dropped off for their mandatory

"Planned Parenthood" meeting. One more brief stop at the UN Global Police station to exchange prisioners,...

er,..I mean "dissenters", from the back of the bus and you're moving again. Along the way you pass through what was

once your town, your city, your home. You see burned out and dilapitated buildings where neighborhoods once stood.

Where Churches once were, there are now prisons and human warehouses, all standing tall and grey amid rubble and

trash lined streets.

You are alone. You are all alone. There are no longer any patriots fighting for a civil society governed by a fair and just

"limited" government, the last few just got off at the last stop............

Your closest family was "relocated" to another "district" in another state, and you only have...........what?

Your faith in God? No, that's been take away too. Outlawed. Eliminated. Gone. The rulers have decreed it so.

Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Your stop is next, as it is every day and as it will be until the day you are no longer useful

to the "system". As you deboard the bus and head down that long razor wire lined cattle chute toward the factory

you call home.............don't forget to close the gate.

Impossible, you say?

Keep electing Marxist/Socialist Moonbats to public office and expecting them to take care of you and we'll see...

I'm sure they have nothing but your best interests in mind.

I'm constantly reminded of something a wise man once told me.

"The worst possible injury a man can inflict upon society is to send his children to school.

They enter with open minds and return with a head full of someone else's ideas, serving no greater purpose that to

exemplify the adage the it is entirely possible to be educated beyond one's intelligence."

Sounds like another sore loser.
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:00 AM
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Buzzard,

You say credibility is lost by name calling yet end your post with calling him a sore loser. That is oxymoronic to say the least.

1- I home school because I do not wnat my kids indoctrinated with secular humanism and taught to bow to themselves. However by your logic then school must be free from all promotion of any set of beliefs this would include atheism, agnosticism, secular humanism etc. Yet the schools are heavily teaching these worldviews with our taxpayer funds. So they should either refund those who do not use the welfare schools or stop indoctrinating the kids with such garbage

2- Wal Mart has abused its employees enough that they are bing sued in almost every state for forcing people to work off the clock. However, I think Wal Mart as a company does more good then they do evil. My wife make almost more an hour then I do and she is just a cashier. I think most people are just ignorant on what Wal mart really does. They give PT people insurance and a lot more

3- Unions have out lived their purpose. They are costing jobs not saving them. Companies outsource because unions do not make it affordable to do business in America. Also they force dues and then turn around a fund the democratic machine which is wrong if you do not by into their baby killing socialism

4- If you think this is still only just the USA then take a ride to KC Missouri. We are quickly become the NAU. Why on earth have we gave Mexico our soil for their country?

5- Free speech is only free till you talk about Jesus then it becomes hate speech. Also both parties for years have been trying to take guns away.

6-Reason and logic are gods of self. What is sad is your mind is limited by your senses. A person of faith has true freedom and their mind is not hamstrung to what can be fathomed.
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6-Reason and logic are gods of self. What is sad is your mind is limited by your senses. A person of faith has true freedom and their mind is not hamstrung to what can be fathomed.
Exactly, someone who doesn't believe in GOD is actually limiting their thoughts and ideas to merely the natural world, they don't even want to consider the possibility of the supernatural. Atheism requires a complete rejection of whatever the human brain cannot perceive. Thus atheism requires closed-mindedness and a restriction of human imagination.
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I thought it was an intelligent, well thought-out piece that pretty much describes what has and is happening in/with our country.

"Moonbats", I like it; I like it a lot.

Thanks for sharing that Mac.
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:42 AM
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Buzzard,

You say credibility is lost by name calling yet end your post with calling him a sore loser. That is oxymoronic to say the least.

1- I home school because I do not wnat my kids indoctrinated with secular humanism and taught to bow to themselves. However by your logic then school must be free from all promotion of any set of beliefs this would include atheism, agnosticism, secular humanism etc. Yet the schools are heavily teaching these worldviews with our taxpayer funds. So they should either refund those who do not use the welfare schools or stop indoctrinating the kids with such garbage.

2- Wal Mart has abused its employees enough that they are bing sued in almost every state for forcing people to work off the clock. However, I think Wal Mart as a company does more good then they do evil. My wife make almost more an hour then I do and she is just a cashier. I think most people are just ignorant on what Wal mart really does. They give PT people insurance and a lot more

3- Unions have out lived their purpose. They are costing jobs not saving them. Companies outsource because unions do not make it affordable to do business in America. Also they force dues and then turn around a fund the democratic machine which is wrong if you do not by into their baby killing socialism

In some ways possibly, but in other ways they are quite needed to give the employees a voice. I can't get fired from my union job because of a whim of a supervisor who doesn't like me. I have grievance procedures that can be used to rectify wrongs done by the company. I have given back so much to the company in pay and in other instances to help the company out while the high level execs have run the company into the ground and given themselves massive bonuses for a piss poor job. I'll agree that I don't agree with everything that goes on with the unions, but I do enjoy the safety knowing I can't get fired just because my boss is having a bad day. There is both good and bad, but in my case, the good outweighs the bad.

4- If you think this is still only just the USA then take a ride to KC Missouri. We are quickly become the NAU. Why on earth have we gave Mexico our soil for their country?

Can you please explain what is going on there to me as I'm not sure what you are talking about. Not being antagonistic I just don't know what you mean.

5- Free speech is only free till you talk about Jesus then it becomes hate speech. Also both parties for years have been trying to take guns away.

You're still free to talk about Jesus if you wish. Kids can pray in class privately too if they wish. Forcing prayer is wrong and I agree with that. Luckily there are groups out there fighting for the gun rights.

6-Reason and logic are gods of self. What is sad is your mind is limited by your senses. A person of faith has true freedom and their mind is not hamstrung to what can be fathomed.

Reason and logic are tools. Fear based religions do nothing for me. Please don't be offended by the term "fear based religions" as I don't mean to offend. I didn't make that up and see them to be that way. Please don't feel sad for me because I don't believe what mere men have written about in regard to illogical beliefs in what I believe are myths. The beauty of it is you are free to live your life with your beliefs and I am free to live mine with my beliefs. There are many good Christian men and women out there who are good people and do good things, as well as many good men and women who don't believe in religion and also do good things. I'm always open to explore new ideas, so far none of them have been able to pass believability tests to my liking in regard to religion. I may be wrong in my beliefs, just as you may be wrong in yours. I would never want to take away your beliefs and the comfort you get from them. Perhaps you have experienced something I have not. Maybe one day I too will have an experience which will change my mind and life. I have friends who believe and friends who don't. The friends who do believe say that they pray for me and I am grateful that they care enough about me to wish the best for me. I don't want to tell them not to because who am I to deny them their beliefs. It doesn't hurt me nor them, and they get joy out of their faith and do that for my benefit, even though I don't believe.
Chris, I said he sounds like a sore loser because that is how I interpreted his last part when he spoke of the elections. I've heard a lot of this during the past 8-9 months. I made sure I didn't call him any names, just how he sounds with what he wrote.

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Exactly, someone who doesn't believe in GOD is actually limiting their thoughts and ideas to merely the natural world, they don't even want to consider the possibility of the supernatural. Atheism requires a complete rejection of whatever the human brain cannot perceive. Thus atheism requires closed-mindedness and a restriction of human imagination.
I've considered the possibility of the supernatural, but nothing written by man has changed my mind on it. Would you believe someone in this day and age who said he experienced what some of the folks back then said they experienced. If not, why?

I'm agnostic. I don't know if there is a God. I do know that man does many things to try to control things. There are quite a bit of inaccuracies and contradictions in the words man has written into the bible. I do think it is a valuable tool and there are some good lessons in there.
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In some ways possibly, but in other ways they are quite needed to give the employees a voice. I can't get fired from my union job because of a whim of a supervisor who doesn't like me. I have grievance procedures that can be used to rectify wrongs done by the company. I have given back so much to the company in pay and in other instances to help the company out while the high level execs have run the company into the ground and given themselves massive bonuses for a piss poor job. I'll agree that I don't agree with everything that goes on with the unions, but I do enjoy the safety knowing I can't get fired just because my boss is having a bad day. There is both good and bad, but in my case, the good outweighs the bad.Not worrying about your job because of whims are real nice in at will states, but most respectable companies have polices in place to protect employees from whims and thus a supervisor cannot just fire on a whim or else they can be sues for wrongful termination even in an at will state. If your employer does not have such policeis then you really are just out of luck. You do not need unions for peace of mind


Can you please explain what is going on there to me as I'm not sure what you are talking about. Not being antagonistic I just don't know what you mean.In Missouri there is a super port in the outskirts of KC that is officially Mexican and Canadian soil. Also there is a highway being constructed from KC to Mexico that would not be subject to America laws or searches. Then they plan to extend it to Canada after that.



You're still free to talk about Jesus if you wish. Kids can pray in class privately too if they wish. Forcing prayer is wrong and I agree with that. Luckily there are groups out there fighting for the gun rights.I wish that were true but daily students are told they cannot write about Jesus for reports they can't read a bible for free reading, they can't pray at lunch etc etc. It happens alot more then the press talks about.


Reason and logic are tools. Fear based religions do nothing for me. Please don't be offended by the term "fear based religions" as I don't mean to offend. I didn't make that up and see them to be that way. Please don't feel sad for me because I don't believe what mere men have written about in regard to illogical beliefs in what I believe are myths. The beauty of it is you are free to live your life with your beliefs and I am free to live mine with my beliefs. There are many good Christian men and women out there who are good people and do good things, as well as many good men and women who don't believe in religion and also do good things. I'm always open to explore new ideas, so far none of them have been able to pass believability tests to my liking in regard to religion. I may be wrong in my beliefs, just as you may be wrong in yours. I would never want to take away your beliefs and the comfort you get from them. Perhaps you have experienced something I have not. Maybe one day I too will have an experience which will change my mind and life. I have friends who believe and friends who don't. The friends who do believe say that they pray for me and I am grateful that they care enough about me to wish the best for me. I don't want to tell them not to because who am I to deny them their beliefs. It doesn't hurt me nor them, and they get joy out of their faith and do that for my benefit, even though I don't believe. I do not serve Christ based on fear. Not sure why you feel that way but real faith is not religion. My guess is that you were hurt in some way by a person or group pretending to be from faith but who were really nothing more then religious zombies who lacked real faith. I am not nor can I feel sad for you because I know you have been told the truth and you have chose at this time to reject it. Does not mean we should give up on you neither.

Chris, I said he sounds like a sore loser because that is how I interpreted his last part when he spoke of the elections. I've heard a lot of this during the past 8-9 months. I made sure I didn't call him any names, just how he sounds with what he wrote. Maybe the terminology was just poor. Saying one sounds like a sore loser can be perceived as one calling one a loser. This happens to me all the time. I will say one acts ignorant and they assume I am calling them ignorant.
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