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Old 04-07-2009, 04:32 AM
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I would make sure it's 556 rather than 223 due to chamber pressure specs. The 556 round can run an additional 15k psi over 223.

You can fire 223 from 556 barrels safely, but not the other way around.

I agree though, you can't go wrong with an AR-15.

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So you want to buy an AR-15, huh?

i beg to differ. I know of several bushmasters that got fed almost 1000 rounds of 556 last year with no hickups. they were chambered in 223 and the 556 goes just fine.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:34 AM
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So I watched the entire series of Jericho the other day it got me thinking...





If now this is a big if Obama is the start of the NWO and all that good stuff I'm completely unprepared to defend myself... I live in NJ and the gun laws are terrible I have no means of self-defense and everyone in my area is no where near as paranoid as I am lol.

Am I going crazy? I'm going to get my rifle permit and start studying wilderness survival and all that stuff.

Anyone have any good book recommendation's? Or perhaps a good starter rifle for me to learn with? I have shot guns before but don't have the knowledge a lot of you have...
Well, if you are really that worried about it then I would suggest getting away from the large population areas. Cities are breeding grounds for crime and are the worst places to be in the middle of any disaster, natural or "man-caused" (aka: terrorism)

(BTW, isn't "man-caused disasters" a little sexist? I guess the current administration doesn't think women are smart enough to pose a threat. )

Also, big cities are always the prime targets for terrorism because they offer so much more potential for loss of life than rural areas. So, I would plan to move away from any large metropolitan areas as soon as possible.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:44 AM
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i beg to differ. I know of several bushmasters that got fed almost 1000 rounds of 556 last year with no hickups. they were chambered in 223 and the 556 goes just fine.
I don't doubt it at all. I just wouldn't recommend it for all .223 caliber rifles. Granted it's probably safe from most AR-15s out there, it's just one of those safety things where I would never risk firing the 556 from a slightly smaller 223 barrel. Pressure increases dramatically when you shrink the barrel slightly. If you're shooting 556 loaded to max spec (~60k psi?), you're probably 20-30% above 223 pressure specs.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:46 AM
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I don't doubt it at all. I just wouldn't recommend it for all .223 caliber rifles. Granted it's probably safe from most AR-15s out there, it's just one of those safety things where I would never risk firing the 556 from a slightly smaller 223 barrel. Pressure increases dramatically. If you're shooting 556 loaded to the max 556 spec, you're probably 20-30% above 223 pressure specs.

Gotcha , yeah i cant say id feed a 556 to an over the counter bolt stevens 223 but i think that most ar platforms can handle the load very well , thats why i was telling him to buy the ar .

Last time i knew it was a 9 month wait on dang near any ar
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:50 AM
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Gotcha , yeah i cant say id feed a 556 to an over the counter bolt stevens 223 but i think that most ar platforms can handle the load very well , thats why i was telling him to buy the ar .

Last time i knew it was a 9 month wait on dang near any ar
6 mos and still waiting for a 6.5 grendel upper from Alexander Arms
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:50 AM
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Well, if you are really that worried about it then I would suggest getting away from the large population areas. Cities are breeding grounds for crime and are the worst places to be in the middle of any disaster, natural or "man-caused" (aka: terrorism)

(BTW, isn't "man-caused disasters" a little sexist? I guess the current administration doesn't think women are smart enough to pose a threat. )

Also, big cities are always the prime targets for terrorism because they offer so much more potential for loss of life than rural areas. So, I would plan to move away from any large metropolitan areas as soon as possible.

If anything happens, I am heading to the gym and moving into the barracks. I just decided. Besides, ya'll will need me for healthcare. I gotta make sure Matt stays healthy.


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Old 04-08-2009, 10:04 PM
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Gotcha , yeah i cant say id feed a 556 to an over the counter bolt stevens 223 but i think that most ar platforms can handle the load very well , thats why i was telling him to buy the ar .

Last time i knew it was a 9 month wait on dang near any ar


lol i actually just bought a 223 stevens last friday, i know its no ar but i didnt want to wait and wanted something cheaper to shoot than the .270, i know Mac says go with the ar but it is a nice little rifle and im perfectly happy with it
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