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Old 04-02-2009, 04:28 PM
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I still side with the cops. Just because you have a loved one in the hospital and near death, doesn't give you the right to drive recklessly and endanger other people's lives.

If you're transporting a critical person to the hospital, I accept that. Going to get a final visit in does not justify it.

Ticket deserved.
I don't think they were arguing to get out of the ticket, they just wanted to see their family member before she died.

It was just the disrespect that the cop showed by saying that this man's dying mother-in-law "didn't matter." You just don't say that to people regardless of what laws they've broken.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:36 PM
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I don't think they were arguing to get out of the ticket, they just wanted to see their family member before she died.

It was just the disrespect that the cop showed by saying that this man's dying mother-in-law "didn't matter." You just don't say that to people regardless of what laws they've broken.
That's true. You don't badmouth the dying family members. I thought the uproar was because the cop pulled them over and didn't just let them go when their reason was explained.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:36 PM
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I don't think they were arguing to get out of the ticket, they just wanted to see their family member before she died.

It was just the disrespect that the cop showed by saying that this man's dying mother-in-law "didn't matter." You just don't say that to people regardless of what laws they've broken.
so had the driver hit and killed someone on the way to the hospital, he should be let in to see his MIL before taken to jail? come on, the cops did his job ... and people are making a big deal of him pointing a gun, yet they are saying she was hysterical ... if i am a cop and she came around the car like that, you gotta protect yourself first ...

I have had to go visit dying people in the hospital, including my father in law, and i was able to obey the laws, it is not that hard ...
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:50 PM
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so had the driver hit and killed someone on the way to the hospital, he should be let in to see his MIL before taken to jail? come on, the cops did his job ... and people are making a big deal of him pointing a gun, yet they are saying she was hysterical ... if i am a cop and she came around the car like that, you gotta protect yourself first ...

I have had to go visit dying people in the hospital, including my father in law, and i was able to obey the laws, it is not that hard ...
No, you don't tell people that their family doesn't matter. That's just wrong. The law needs to be enforced with some measure of compassion and common sense. This cop had neither and I don't want someone like that serving on any police force.

If they had committed a hit and run, then I could understand the cop's actions. Again, running a stop sign and speeding are not jailable offenses, the cop had no legal grounds to threaten to arrest this man for running a stop sign. A little bit of perspective is required here.

I don't care that he stopped them or tried to pull them over, that's his job. I don't even care that he pulled his gun, that's to be expected when people jump out of the car after being pulled over. What bothers me is that, even when the nurses and hospital security verified the man's story, the cop still detained him to write this stupid ticket.

99% of the time, I would side with the cop in a situation like this. However, the circumstances here are clearly different than someone just lying to get out of a ticket.
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That's true. You don't badmouth the dying family members. I thought the uproar was because the cop pulled them over and didn't just let them go when their reason was explained.
I understood if the cop felt he still had to issue the ticket. Also, he didn't know what was going on when all of them exited the vehicle(s) so he drew his weapon. But, once the hospital personnel verified his story, the cop should have escorted him in to the hospital and finished writing the ticket at that point.

Like I said, I don't think it was this one incident that lost him his job.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:21 PM
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I still side with the cops. Just because you have a loved one in the hospital and near death, doesn't give you the right to drive recklessly and endanger other people's lives.

If you're transporting a critical person to the hospital, I accept that. Going to get a final visit in does not justify it.

Ticket deserved.
He stopped, waited at the red light and then rolled thru. Doesn't sound like he endangered anyone.

Ticket deserved, looking like an ass and resigning, also deserved.

It's not about a ticket, the guy asked for one. It was the unnecessary delay.
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Old 04-02-2009, 10:21 PM
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Good rule of thumb...
Treat people how you would like to be treated. You never know what someone is going through. Try to be patient, kind, and gentle when you can. Treat others as you would your own family. Thats all I have to say...
Unless your bashing Matt then you gotta deal with me and you will feel the wrath of Miss Villaseņor....
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Good rule of thumb...

Unless your bashing Matt then you gotta deal with me and you will feel the wrath of Miss Villaseņor....
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