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Old 11-05-2013, 04:35 PM
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i was quite serious .. i guess tho, i should have just said Christian and not strong Christian .. you either are or aren't right? and i guess everyone should base their giving to charity based on what goes on the tax form ... donating items, volunteering time doesn't count .. in that case, mitt romney giving millions to the LDS makes him a saint!!!!

as for obama, he is doing the better job of charitible donations by changing the laws ... making sure the poor, hungry and sick are taken care of by his policies ... and when the dems win in 2016 again, the people of america will have spoken, just like they did in 2008 and 2012 ...
Did you know that the church of LDS is considered a cult by most protestant churches? Therefore, Mitt is no more a christian than you claim Obama is...........So let me get this straight, you equate Obama's policies with Christianity? His stand on abortion? His stand on gay marriage? His stand on the constitution? His stand on the interpretation of separation of church & state?

And as far as giving goes.......since when can you rob someone else of what is rightfully theirs and bestow it on someone else and truly call it giving?

It's not called giving, it's called socialism!
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:26 PM
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Did you know that the church of LDS is considered a cult by most protestant churches? Therefore, Mitt is no more a christian than you claim Obama is...........So let me get this straight, you equate Obama's policies with Christianity? His stand on abortion? His stand on gay marriage? His stand on the constitution? His stand on the interpretation of separation of church & state?

And as far as giving goes.......since when can you rob someone else of what is rightfully theirs and bestow it on someone else and truly call it giving?

It's not called giving, it's called socialism!
obama is a government official who was voted in to do what the people want .. since you have the freedom of religion, people are free to choose what religion they want to follow, and are not to be bound by what Christianity says is right and wrong ...
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:54 PM
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obama is a government official who was voted in to do what the people want .. since you have the freedom of religion, people are free to choose what religion they want to follow, and are not to be bound by what Christianity says is right and wrong ...

Uh......your the one that claimed he was a christian, right? I mean you more or less said that Obama was displaying that he is a christian by his policies. Plus, you did not answer my question............is robbing from someone else and bestowing upon another, truly giving?
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:32 PM
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as for obama, he is doing the better job of charitible donations by changing the laws ... making sure the poor, hungry and sick are taken care of by his policies ... and when the dems win in 2016 again, the people of america will have spoken, just like they did in 2008 and 2012 ...
He is causing millions to lose their already established, affordable healthcare. He is taking food off people's tables by forcing them to purchase his insurance. He is making millions of people poorer!

It takes a blind fool not to see this!

Obamacare insurance is ••••ty insurance. And it costs more than insurance was costing the people who cared about having it anyway.
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:09 PM
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He is causing millions to lose their already established, affordable healthcare. He is taking food off people's tables by forcing them to purchase his insurance. He is making millions of people poorer!

It takes a blind fool not to see this!

Obamacare insurance is ••••ty insurance. And it costs more than insurance was costing the people who cared about having it anyway.
Thats the point.

its nothing but a stealth tax, and that extra money is nothing but another income for the Federal Government.

This was NEVER about Health, NEVER about the provision of health, Never about the affordability of Health. This was about generating another income for the Federal Government.

IF you dont need the insurance, or never have to use it...dont think your money sits in some bank account rotting...its being used, to raise your debt ceiling, to spy on your activities, and to bribe votes on tightening gun restrictions

Rebellion against Tyrany is Obedience to GOD....so said a famous American once...No wonder Congress decided not to stick with that motto
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:01 PM
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Thats the point.

its nothing but a stealth tax, and that extra money is nothing but another income for the Federal Government.

This was NEVER about Health, NEVER about the provision of health, Never about the affordability of Health. This was about generating another income for the Federal Government.

IF you dont need the insurance, or never have to use it...dont think your money sits in some bank account rotting...its being used, to raise your debt ceiling, to spy on your activities, and to bribe votes on tightening gun restrictions