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Old 10-31-2013, 04:37 PM
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called what???? nate has never believed the dems have had the interests of the people in mind ... not just when it comes to healthcare, but everything!!!
This isn't about the government caring about people's health. This is all about the money! The government wants their piece of the pie. The only difference is if you don't pay Blue Cross they cancel your insurance. If you don't pay the govt they will come and take 'yo shyte'!
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:44 PM
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This isn't about the government caring about people's health. This is all about the money! The government wants their piece of the pie. The only difference is if you don't pay Blue Cross they cancel your insurance. If you don't pay the govt they will come and take 'yo shyte'!
IMO, Obama is in a tough situation ... as the president, he is doing his best to separate church and state, but as a strong christian, he is doing his best for the less fortunate ... he is feeding the hungry, taking care of the sick etc with his policies ... in fact, this time last year he was helping out the people who were affected by superstorm sandy when he could have just been on the campaign trail... so much so that Chris Christie could do nothing but praise BHO ...
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:49 PM
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IMO, Obama is in a tough situation ... as the president, he is doing his best to separate church and state, but as a strong christian, he is doing his best for the less fortunate ... he is feeding the hungry, taking care of the sick etc with his policies ... in fact, this time last year he was helping out the people who were affected by superstorm sandy when he could have just been on the campaign trail... so much so that Chris Christie could do nothing but praise BHO ...
How is Obamacare taking care of the sick?
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:53 PM
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How is Obamacare taking care of the sick?
its making sure people who are sick are getting taken care of .. those without insurance put off going to a doctor for treatment ... by having insurance, most people won't be doing this ... as time goes, the US population will get healthier .. if people are going to get cheaper premiums for being healthy, they will start taking better care of themselves ...
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its making sure people who are sick are getting taken care of .. those without insurance put off going to a doctor for treatment ... by having insurance, most people won't be doing this ... as time goes, the US population will get healthier .. if people are going to get cheaper premiums for being healthy, ( who says they will get cheaper premiums? ) they will start taking better care of themselves ...
It does nothing to ensure people are getting taken care of. It has nothing to do with what kind of care they are provided.

There was a study done backed by people supporting obamacare. It showed that the people who received the best care between states in the US depended on the care that medical personnel/facilities provided. And it had nothing to do with whether or not the people had health insurance. So if the goal was better care then why not put more/better regulations on the kind of care provided to the people? Because that would not generate money for the government.

Does having car insurance make you a better driver?

People take better care of themselves if they can't afford to get sick. lol
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:18 PM
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It does nothing to ensure people are getting taken care of. It has nothing to do with what kind of care they are provided.

There was a study done backed by people supporting obamacare. It showed that the people who received the best care between states in the US depended on the care that medical personnel/facilities provided. And it had nothing to do with whether or not the people had health insurance. So if the goal was better care then why not put more/better regulations on the kind of care provided to the people? Because that would not generate money for the government.

Does having car insurance make you a better driver?

People take better care of themselves if they can't afford to get sick. lol
the idea of your premiums going up makes you a better driver ...

and no, people aren't taking care of themselves .. if that were the case, the US wouldn't be one of the most unhealthiest nations ... i think the current US model is something other countries with universal healthcare (like Canada) are going to start moving towards ...
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the idea of your premiums going up makes you a better driver ...
Then the idea of "I can't afford to get sick because I don't have any health insurance" should be a better motivator than "Well, now I have insurance so I might as well use it."
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:46 PM
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not if you are paying the premiums that get higher with more claims... it will be good to fall back on, and is good when used as a proactive measure ...
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not if you are paying the premiums that get higher with more claims... it will be good to fall back on, and is good when used as a proactive measure ...


Where are you getting the 'higher premium with more claims' thing? Is that in Obamacare?
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:43 PM
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not if you are paying the premiums that get higher with more claims... it will be good to fall back on, and is good when used as a proactive measure ...
So, what you're basically saying is that health insurance is great as long as you never get sick. But if you do actually get sick and… gasp! …actually need to use that thing that you've been paying money into every month, then you should expect to be punished with higher premiums.
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