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Old 09-26-2013, 07:59 PM
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"First of all, if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan - you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you."
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Yesterday (less than a week before Obamacare kicks in), I received a letter from my doctor that he is closing his practice and changing to a VIP practice model. If I want to keep my doctor I have to pay a $1,650 per year subscription fee; otherwise, I have to find a new doctor. In addition, beginning this year our insurance plan was closed and we were folded into another insurance company. Obama is such a liar. Our press is so dishonest and corrupt that they don't print stories contrary to the party line. I'm livid.
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Old 09-26-2013, 08:20 PM
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This whole thing IS and WILL be a complete disaster. I'm currently on my wife's health insurance because it is much better than what my employer currently provides. My wife just received a letter from her employer that effective January 1, any employee with a spouse on his/her insurance will have to pay an extra $50.00 per paycheck. This very thing was warned about over a year ago. Employers will eventually provide for the employees ONLY and spouses/children will have to go somewhere else.

That totally sux about your doc. I'm hearing similar stories from others. Like everything the government creates.......the devil is in the details. Sure you can keep your doctor, but it may not be affordable. And wasn't this called the affordable care act?
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:52 PM
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Will Obamacare be the thing that finally makes people realize the golden idol they've been worshipping for five years is not GOD?
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:29 AM
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You also gotta love how all of our Congressmen who voted this trainwreck into law only did so after they made sure they would be exempt from it.
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You also gotta love how all of our Congressmen who voted this trainwreck into law only did so after they made sure they would be exempt from it.
As usual they pass crap law for we the people, but they end up exempted. We know we're paying for theirs, we just don't know if we're going to be able to afford ours. What's wrong with this picture?!
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:53 AM
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A lot of doctors are having to go to this practice model in order to survive. We will see more and more doctors making difficult choices and we'll end up with a shortage in just a few years.



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Old 09-27-2013, 12:55 PM
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:55 PM
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A lot of doctors are having to go to this practice model in order to survive. We will see more and more doctors making difficult choices and we'll end up with a shortage in just a few years.



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i am not going to pretend to be an expert at this obamacare business, but i doubt a lot of doctors will be needing to go to that model "to survive" ... the problem is the medical world has been colluding for years in keeping prices high on their work and now they are just going to try whatever they can to keep their profit margins high ... sure, they have the right to do that, but i don't think they are gonna get much sympathy when they can now only afford one summer house instead of two ...
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:12 PM
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i am not going to pretend to be an expert at this obamacare business, but i doubt a lot of doctors will be needing to go to that model "to survive" ... the problem is the medical world has been colluding for years in keeping prices high on their work and now they are just going to try whatever they can to keep their profit margins high ... sure, they have the right to do that, but i don't think they are gonna get much sympathy when they can now only afford one summer house instead of two ...
Since I work in an office and know how it works I can tell you that the amount charged by the docs for services has WAY more to do with the insurance companies than with the docs trying to make money. Yes, the docs want to live well but let's face it....they worked hard to get where they are and a lot of them have heavy school loan debt. We have to have some sort of insurance reform but Obamacare is not the way to go. It's going to drive prices higher, starting next month. This isn't about doctors trying to fleece their patients.


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Since I work in an office and know how it works I can tell you that the amount charged by the docs for services has WAY more to do with the insurance companies than with the docs trying to make money. Yes, the docs want to live well but let's face it....they worked hard to get where they are and a lot of them have heavy school loan debt. We have to have some sort of insurance reform but Obamacare is not the way to go. It's going to drive prices higher, starting next month. This isn't about doctors trying to fleece their patients.


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Exactly. You have to be highly motivated to accomplish that. And when you take away the money factor then what will push the people to want to be doctors. Eventually, they will have to dumb down the program and lower the standards. Making it cheaper and easier to be a doctor will be the only way to entice people to want to do it.

Then the rich here can travel to another country for a good doctor the way that rich Canadians now travel here for the best care.
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