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Old 10-26-2012, 07:11 PM
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The latest: I just heard on FOX news that 3 separate "help" requests were denied during the Benghazi attack on Sept. 11. The first request is made by operatives on the ground there in Benghazi, when they hear the gun fire and know the Ambassador and consulate are under attack, they request to go to the aid of the Ambassador to help but are told by their superiors to stand down. An hour later, they again make the request, and again are told to stand down, but this time they ignore their orders and go over to the consulate to help, but by then it's too late. Tyrone Woods, one of the Seals, who was already in Benghazi, is in this group...they recover Sean Smith's body, but still cannot locate the Ambassador so they gather up everyone else, including Smith's body, and head by vehicle to the Annex, what is supposed to be the "safe" house. Along the way, two separate grenades are thrown under their vehicle and they take direct gun fire from the terrorists who are waiting along the road. They finally get to the Annex.

In the meantime, Glen Doherty, the 2nd Seal, is with a small group that flies in from Tripoli. It takes them 45 minutes to make it to the Annex because they can't find an escort from the airport because there is infighting among the Libyans. They finally make it to the Annex, but the terrorists soon reposition themselves at the Annex also. Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods call in for a military plane to fly over to provide fire, they already have GPS and/or lasers on the enemy so the plane will know directly where to fire, but the Seals are told to abort or stand down. There is no plane sent in to help them. They start taking mortar fire, at some point Glen Doherty takes a direct hit and is killed; Tyrone Woods is also killed. This attack starting at the consulate and ending at the Annex lasted for over 7 hours, but no help is ever sent.

An unmanned drone(s) was over Benghazi during the attacks and was recording, in real time, what is taking place on the ground. Anyone with the clearance could get and see the video and watch in real time as the attack is taking place. An hour and a half after the initial attack started on the consulate, the President, the Vice-President and Leon Panetta, the Secy. of Defense are all together at the White House along with several other key people.

What are they doing while our people are being attacked--calling on them to send help? What exactly is the President doing while our people are being murdered?
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It is just hard to wrap my head around that. disgusting
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:29 PM
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He was actually asked some tough questions about it by a great reported from Colorado. Of course, all Obama's answers were evasions and campaign talking points. Well worth listening to the whole thing though. Our national media need to be asking these same questions but they are not. It's absolutely despicable.

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He was actually asked some tough questions about it by a great reported from Colorado. Of course, all Obama's answers were evasions and campaign talking points. Well worth listening to the whole thing though. Our national media need to be asking these same questions but they are not. It's absolutely despicable.

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The main stream media have done their best to all but smother Benghazi all in the name of Obama! They did the same thing with Fast & Furious--where Border Agent Brian Terry was killed. One person said it best regarding Obama and Benghazi, dereliction of duty! The same can be said for the main stream media! I've never seen anything like it.
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Judge Jeanine Pirro had a panel of former military brass on her show tonight talking about Benghazi and the President's failure to act. At the end of the segment she asked each of them to describe the President's failure to send help, these are their words: disgraceful, unacceptable, cowardly, and from the former Commander of the USS Cole...culpable negligence.

As one colonel explained, the Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta would be the one to give the orders, BUT ONLY AFTER the President gave him the go ahead. He also said the President would have definitely been watching the live feed coming in at the time of the attack.

Judge Jeanine ended her opening comments at the beginning of the show with, "Mr. President, with all due respect to the Presidency, you're calling your opponent a "BSer."

On previous shows she's paid tribute to three of the four killed in Benghazi, tonight she paid tribute to Tyrone Woods, the Navy Seal who disobeyed orders to stand down for a second time in order to go to the aid of those being attacked at the consulate. She quoted from Gen. MacArthur's speech, Duty, Honor, Country:

"In his youth and strength, his love and loyalty, he gave all that mortality can give. He needs no eulogy from me, or from any other man. He has written his own history..."
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What exactly is the President doing while our people are being murdered?
Trying to Retain his Office post the next general ellection. Its Early Voting season dont you know...

(Thats the sad truth IMO)
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:04 AM
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Trying to Retain his Office post the next general ellection. Its Early Voting season dont you know...

(Thats the sad truth IMO)
I think everybody knows why he didn't send help and why they put that nonsense out about that video being the cause, but I want to know what he was doing when Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were up on those buildings giving their lives protecting others? I have a sick feeling he went to bed and went to sleep...you know he had an important campaign trip to Vegas the next day!

He's been on tv today showing everybody how he's on top of this big storm, Hurricane Sandy, that's about to hit the east coast in another day or so. How he's going to make sure our people are taken care of without delays or rules getting in the way. That's real funny coming from the guy who takes no responsibility for the deaths of four Americans in Libya, the Commander-in-Chief who watches while Americans are being attacked and does nothing.

What do you think Netanyahu is thinking right now after seeing the American President refuse to help his own people while they are being attacked? Maybe..."If Obama won't even help his own people who are being attacked..."
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I think everybody knows why he didn't send help and why they put that nonsense out about that video being the cause, but I want to know what he was doing when Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were up on those buildings giving their lives protecting others? I have a sick feeling he went to bed and went to sleep...you know he had an important campaign trip to Vegas the next day!

He's been on tv today showing everybody how he's on top of this big storm, Hurricane Sandy, that's about to hit the east coast in another day or so. How he's going to make sure our people are taken care of without delays or rules getting in the way. That's real funny coming from the guy who takes no responsibility for the deaths of four Americans in Libya, the Commander-in-Chief who watches while Americans are being attacked and does nothing.

What do you think Netanyahu is thinking right now after seeing the American President refuse to help his own people while they are being attacked? Maybe..."If Obama won't even help his own people who are being attacked..."
Benyamin made it quite clear I think that if the United States wouldnt do something to stop Iran...He would personally take control and do it himself.

Its been quiet since he had a falling out with Obama about that...but last I checked, people are still expecting an Israeli air strike BEFORE the US General Ellection

The Next Two Weeks could be important to the shape of the international future concerning Iran, Israel and the US. Not only do we have a US General Ellection which is too close to call right now, indicating that Obama could be about to topple, we also have the Libyan insurgence at the Embassy, we also have the entire Eastern Seaboard declairing a state of emergency in the anticipation of a tropical storm. On top of that Israel is threatening to carry out an airstrike on Iran, who will doubtless retaliate...and the Syrian Civil War is begining to suck in both Lebanon and Turkey...They threatened to use biological and chemical weapons against any outside interference...and rather uniquely, the US said..."oh...okay, get on with it, we'll leave you to it then"

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HANNITY: All right. Now, moments ago, I spoke with the father of this American hero Tyrone Woods to get reaction to these developments. An incredible interview. Here is what he had to say.

We have learned so much in the aftermath of this attack. And you know we've learned that the ambassador first requested security. It was denied. We learned that while they were under attack that they requested security and none was forthcoming and we learned that they were watching this in the state department, Charlene Lamb said, they were watching this in Real Time, so everybody knew what was going on.


CHARLES WOODS, FATHER OF FALLEN NAVY SEAL TYRONE WOODS: Right, exactly. When I went back to Washington, D.C., when the bodies were flown in, I knew that something was fishy. It just -- it was just obvious that something was wrong with this picture and in my mind, I questioned, you know, this was obviously a long drawn out battle. Why was there no immediate air support sent in that would have saved the lives of not just the other 30 people but also the life of my son who truly was an American hero?

Now, it has come out that pleas for help were made not just by the other individuals but also by my son and these pleas were turned down by the White House. Now, as you know I'm a retired attorney and I know that these actions legally do not constitute murder but in my mind the people in the White House all of them who have authority to send in reinforcements to prevent what they knew was going to be the death of my son are guilty of murdering my son.

There is new information that came out this morning that my son on a couple of different occasions requested permission to go to the aide of those 30 people who were being attacked and on at least two of those first occasions, he was told stay where you are at, let them die, don't go and it does not surprise me that my son disobeyed orders in order to save American lives. That is the type of American hero he was.

HANNITY: Let me -- so after he was told to stand down as I understand that there were numerous other pleas for help and your son actually as I understand it rescued many people and got them out of the consulate. Is that true?

WOODS: You know, one of the real touching e-mails I got was -- I won't mention a name but I received an e-mail from someone who said, your son's sacrifice saved my life and he saved more than one life and that is the type of man he was. That is the type of leadership the military needs.
HANNITY: So, if he would have obeyed that order to stand down rather than help the ambassador's team, that person is telling you they wouldn't be alive today.

WOODS: That is correct.

HANNITY: And then --

WOODS: And many other people as well.

HANNITY: And your son first got involved, was told to stand down after they heard shots at approximately 9:40 p.m. Now, as I understand it, it wasn't until about 4:00 a.m. the next day that your son after he had rescued other people was still fighting in this attack and it was then that he took on mortar fire?

WOODS: That is my understanding. For seven hours the cowards in the White House were watching something they knew that was going to potentially kill those 30 people and potentially kill my son and they refused to do that even though they had a moral duty to send support they chose not to. This is not the way the SEALs operate. The SEALs are an honorable unit and Ty was honorable by disobeying the powers in the White House that told him not to rescue those lives.

HANNITY: Your son was told to stand down. Here's a Navy SEAL, with all the time and training and effort, he risks his military career, risks his life for seven full hours, rescues all these people. Multiple requests throughout the entire period go, it is being watched in Real Time and nobody sends any help. I can't fathom this. And then we are told the president goes out there for two weeks and couldn't admit that this is a terrorist attack. Why do you think that he tried to blame it on this video or denied that it was a terror attack?

WOODS: You know, unfortunately, Sean, we have a generation of liars who have no moral background. Hopefully my son's sacrifice and his moral courage and his moral strength will encourage our next generation to be completely different. That we will change our direction. That we will raise up a new generation of true American heroes such as my son who have moral courage and who are not liars like too many people in authority are nowadays.

HANNITY: I know you met the president and you met Hillary Clinton, when they had this service.

WOODS: That is, correct. At Andrew's Air Force Base.

HANNITY: At Andrew's Air Force Base.

WOODS: When the bodies were flown in.

HANNITY: You said, the President couldn't look you in the eye and it was like shaking hands with a dead fish.

WOODS: That's exactly right. Yes.

HANNITY: And so, you felt he couldn't look you in the eye and that basically he felt no empathy and you said the same thing pretty much about Hillary Clinton?

WOODS: Right. What happened was he came through there kind of after everyone else had been, you know, in the room circulating and he came over and shook my hand, you know, I wanted to do more than just shake his hand, so I kind of put my arm around his shoulder to have just a little bit of physical warmth, not a major hug but just a small one. And, you know, he kind of -- it wasn't in a powerful voice it was more of just a whiney little voice I'm sorry. You know, and I could tell by his voice he wasn't even sorry.

It would be like a little kid that is told by the teacher to go apologize to Johnny out on the play ground and when looked at me his face was pointed towards me but he couldn't look me in the eye. He was looking over my shoulder and like I say, I thought, you know, political -- literally like shaking hands with a dead fish. I did not believe him at all as far as his being sorry and now we understand why.

Was he one of those cowards that was in the White House watching my son being murdered on TV and refusing to do anything? That is a question that he will probably not have the courage to answer publicly but I would like to personally know that answer and one of these days, the whole I'm sure that we will have that answer.

HANNITY: It is the hardest thing to lose a child and learning about the heroics of your son are beyond inspiring. He put everything on the line, you know, if we want to use a biblical quote no greater love hath a man to lay down his life for somebody else. Your son lay down his life for others.

WOODS: That's right.

HANNITY: Yes.

WOODS: So, thank you very much, Sean. And I really appreciate the work that you are doing.

HANNITY: I appreciate your time. Thank you for being with us.
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when looked at me his face was pointed towards me but he couldn't look me in the eye. He was looking over my shoulder and like I say, I thought, you know, political

Was he one of those cowards that was in the White House watching my son being murdered on TV and refusing to do anything?
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